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Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« on: December 28, 2012, 10:12:30 pm »
Alright, so the "Feeling ignored in a RP" thread made me think of this. Now here, Im not talking about being ignored. This is concerning RPs that are agreed upon by two people. And Ill go ahead and say, Im going to struggle to explain what I'm trying to say here so if some things do not come across clearly I will do my best to clarify them.

So let me make this clear upfront, yes, some characters are oblivious due to it being their nature. There are derpy characters, clumsy characters, and characters that zone out or purposefully ignore others. That's pretty expected. However...

...What about the rest of them that /arent/ supposed to be this way? Somehow I think some players don't really process the information in someone elses post. Its as if something needs to be upfront and in their face for their character to notice. And its not just that. The players do not even acknowledge what your character is doing inside of your post. [And understand, this is between a VERY small group or only two people so its not like the player of the other character has anything to do or look at that might incline them to ignore you.]

For example, if you and another person were alone in a room and one of them begins shouting and you're half asleep when they begin shouting.... odds are, you're going to react to that in some way, shape, or form. Maybe you'll perk up, maybe you'll ask them what they're shouting about or ask them to stop, maybe you would tell them to flat out shut up, or.... maybe even you'll just kinda look at them before nodding off again. The point being YOU WOULD NOTICE.  This particular example may overlap with the "ignoring" bit so let me back up with another example.

Your character is sneaking from cover to cover to assasinate another character. They're a little nervous, they dont exactly want to, but theyre going to because for one reason or another, they think they have to.

....The other character does'nt notice your character's sneaking around until after several posts. Fair enough, that makes perfect sense. EXCEPT..... their character does'nt question why your character is sneaking around, dose'nt wonder why your character is'nt making eye contact and is stuttering, or why they have something hidden behind their back. And it is not until your character acctually attempts to strike out or kill them that they show ANY sign of curiosity or suspicion. [Ok, extreme and not-so-great example there.] But come ON. I know SOME characters are like that  but seriously, not everyone [or rather, every character] in the world is overtrusting or oblivious like that.

 There are times in real life where you may not necesarily be speaking but you would react. Heres one final, and probably crazier example but I feel its effective here. If a lunatic went screaming across the mall running as fast as he could waving his arms. You're not going to keep reading your magazine. You're going to at /least/ look up if not move away. Why do some of these roleplays make me think that if yourcharacter was in that position that the lunatic would have to speak TO them or run and plow directly INTO them for them to take notice? I mean really. 8/


 And I tend to see behavior like this common among the more iliterate players but I've seen it in literate players just the same. If you agreed to roleplay with me, why do I have to plant a big neon-green sign in your character's face BEFORE they acknowledge my character's actions? It drains a lot of the fun out of a roleplay, having to spell things out. I suppose I'm just annoyed at the large number of people who are unwilling to read between the lines even the slightest bit. 8/
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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 10:21:14 pm »
Wow. I actually did that once. This person was roleplaying as this giant, volcano-sized dragon who was making this volcano erupt and the ground was shaking. We totally ignored it x.x.

 UNTIL....
 
 He said: "The rumbling was loud and violent, and it reached the dragons that were in West." AKA us. We're like: "OMG THE GROUND IS SHAKING. WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?" XD

 Thanks for pointing that out. We'll all (hopefully) work on reading between the lines. :)

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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 04:15:57 am »
YES. Thank you for posting this; it drives me crazy. So often, characters won't notice odd/unusual things like strangers sneaking around, nearby fights, or natural disasters, until it's spelled out several times over, which really kills the flow of an RP. I think the problem largely arises from people focusing too much on their own character/conversation and wanting to be noticed (which is really somewhat inevitable, especially if you don't know anyone you're RPing with very well), and it comes at the expense of the RP at large because no one's paying enough attention to react properly to anyone else.

Same holds true for not reacting to characters of unusual species or colouration, which I've been guilty of myself. Mostly because I'm never entirely sure whether a wolf with white emo bangs or a half-fox-half-husky is supposed to be a normal thing in context, or if it bears mentioning.

Maybe just establishing a bit more of an RP's canon and spending more time having our characters really interact with one another would help the problem. Specifically, not just in the standard 'hi, my name is [name].' 'Hi, [name], welcome to the pride, you're a hunter now.' way, but actually delve in and allow people to utilize the things that make their characters interesting and unique. Otherwise, they just all blend into a mass of more wolves/lions/cats/demons, plus that one guy/gal who always sits off to one side of the camp acting quiet and depressed, and the RP seems incredibly boring.

Wow, that was long. Sorry for the text wall. Anyway, those are my thoughts on the topic. Basically, I agree. XD

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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 04:28:17 am »
I can understand large groups with many different factors getting some ignoring in there, but I agree that one or two (literate >.>) roleplayers should be able to touch on major underlying nuances that the others are putting out. I personally like to write my posts while I read others... somehow my brain differentiates what I'm saying from what they say. But yeah, it really irks me when people don't even give an honest effort to see what I'm saying, especially when I'm giving it my all to select the perfect diction word to create tone and mood.


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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 07:50:02 pm »
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed this. x.x It irks me so much.


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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 09:08:59 pm »
I hadn't noticed this before until you pointed it out. Now that I think about, this has happened to me before...me being the one that had to place the neon sign right in front of someone.
It seems to me that some people don't have the capacity to register subtle hints and the like, and there could be many reasons for that. For me, I find having to be really obvious and up front quite boring and it takes the fun out of roleplaying, so I try to find people that are on the same sort of intellictual level as I am, because then I know that we'll understand each other's styles and stuff. But that's easier said than done.
Oh, and I'm not saying that people who are a bit...oblivious are thick, by no means. Like you said, it could just be the way their characters are, which I'm with. But some roleplayers, perhaps the younger ones, and....more challenged ones, may take more time and effort to acknowledge things. I have nothing wrong with people being young, inexperienced or whatever, I just don't particularly enjoy roleplaying with them. No offence intented.

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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 01:53:55 am »

I feel pretty oblivious because I never once noticed this while Roleplaying. Now that I think about, I always have to do something very big and obvious in order for someone to actually roleplay with me.
Now, I'm happy you pointed this out. And your right, It is more common in Illiterates, but literates do this as well.

(I hope I haven't done this, but I probably have xDD)

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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 04:12:59 am »
I'm having one of those 'someone should make a group for this!' moments, but it probably wouldn't work... XD

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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 03:09:59 am »
I'm having one of those 'someone should make a group for this!' moments, but it probably wouldn't work... XD
What do you mean, Tearless? =o xD


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Re: Learn to Read Between The Lines.
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2013, 04:11:36 am »
Y'know, just the thought of making a specific group dedicated to RPing more concientiously. Again, I have no idea what kind it would be and it probably wouldn't pan out, just a thought that I felt compelled rather late at night to post about for some reason. XD