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Re: RIP General
« Reply #140 on: June 21, 2013, 07:41:57 am »
Hrhm, this is a hard bit to get used to.

       As we all know, Feralheart has had it's sad moments, and we have learned to hang in there. Sometimes things happen, and yeah, this one was a bit of a setback for me and a lot of others. But, I have to say I agree with the situation.
       General hasn't always been my favorite place to be. But, I got used to it and started making friends there, and at first, this news was devistating. Now that I have heard Delay and Raz's reasoning, I accept the fact that General was a place for mindless derping and spam, but people could also find it easy to advertise there. But, we have movies, and even though movies are not long enough to make an actual good advertisement, it's better then nothing, right? I find it more of a good thing General is gone.

     I have gone through a lot through the time I've been in Feralheart, and I wasn't expecting this. I just wish people would quit spamming useless posts about why general is gone...

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #141 on: June 21, 2013, 10:57:49 am »
Let us see where this chapter of the second book leads us. I myself am interested to find out and bare witness if the plot of this novel will mimic the first book blindly published. Never-the-less, general chats disappeared. Life goes on but will Feral-Heart? That's the biggest question those around myself are inquiring. Just placing a silver of the prospective I've received.

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #142 on: June 21, 2013, 01:29:05 pm »
Raz, and all the mods that support this: I would really suggest LISTENING to what your community is saying. You tell US to be open-minded, but you aren't being open-minded yourselves. You are just brushing off what everyone says like it isn't important. If you keep up like this... people will begin to leave. FeralHeart will die. You should actually take into consideration what the community thinks. 99/100 of the FeralHeart community wants General back. LISTEN TO THEM, instead of ignoring them, and stubbornly sticking to your selfish decision. I think that removing General is just your way of being lazy, so you don't have to do your job and moderate. Stop being selfish. Give back General, it's what the community wants.
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Re: RIP General
« Reply #143 on: June 21, 2013, 02:10:57 pm »
yes I really hope general will be back. I agree with the one who had started this topic, you usually use general to advertise.

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #144 on: June 21, 2013, 02:39:58 pm »
You all have solid opinions, and I'll admit that I'm annoyed at the removal of general, but since it's gone and won't probably come back so easily, we should look at an alternative. I don't believe it's possible to add a new chat to the game, so we need something else; though it'd take a while to set up, why can't there be an advertising party, say one per map, where everyone who wants to advertise like the good old days can type out their ads in party chat? Personally, I haven't found an effective use for the chat, so why can't it be a temporary replacement? True, getting all the other members to join the party would take a bit of time, but once it gets going it should sustain itself, since there's rarely a time when there are absolutely no members in a map, particularly Flourite Plains.

Phew, alright, done with my random idea. Shun it, critisicse it, love it, whatever you want, but I think I'll just go ahead and invite some of the floofs of Flourite into a party. Since I've shared my opinions in several other places about general chat, this is all I'll post.

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #145 on: June 21, 2013, 04:16:09 pm »
Well as long as there are alternative there will be a way to do stuff!
As what we have to concentrate for now is to organize some sweet meetings on unique big spots, like the crossroads for example. Having different thematic to talk and chat about. One side would ramble about fun stuff, the other about other serious discussions or just random chat. This is a way to get people to socialism more commonly, group together and so on. The ads should be left at the spots like N/Z, stone bridge and cape portal.
That's that, there is always a way to do something different, but for now lets get some new ways to satisfy the people that loved to use general for chat.
And make a thread that shows the portal locations on maps for all the unfortunate people that get lost xD
Yes, stuff got harder now without general, but as long as there are other options (one not including movies) we can get around it somehow.
Now, the rp's are far better off than the people that came on just to chat and didn't want to disturb someone. So yeah, make a thread here on the forum, it will do good, and there you can write far more than on any chat limit.
But seriously, just to get people come together more often we could organize some thematic nights/days to chat about all that stuff in local.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 04:20:07 pm by Vessan »

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #146 on: June 21, 2013, 04:34:43 pm »
I was a bit mad at the moment, but now I'll just say what I need to get off my chest.

I will surprise everyone here, I know. But, I don't mind general being gone. Last few times I posted, I was so mad that I didn't really know why I was posting such confusing things. But let's just get to w point. We can make the best of things. If you really do want to role play, go get off you rear and find members. If you don't have the energy, then just sit around and be a rock-claimer, as I like to say. I'll advertise with movies and local, it'll be alright. Who knows, they might actually bring general back. We will just have to see. But I'll just say one more thing. The staff should have told us, put an announcement in the game, or something. All I'm asking is that you would just consider bringing general back, for the sake of all the people who want it. Please, just consider it. I forgave the staff. And so should you guys.


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Re: RIP General
« Reply #147 on: June 21, 2013, 10:33:51 pm »
Now that I think about it, I think I might've been a little harsh about this (See my comment on page four of this thread). Besides, we don't actually need to rely on just one chat to be able to get on with our roleplays and everything. As for advertising, there's always Local chat (even though that would require moving around the map, which I'm perfectly fine with). As for chatting, again, there's always Local. Either that, or there's the better, unused option: Party chat. It's as simple as either making some new friends, or getting on Feral Heart with your friends, and then inviting them to Party Chat. There you have it. You can still chat through there. That's the whole purpose of both of those chats.

I know that getting rid of General wasn't the best idea, but at least there are any functional alternatives at all.

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Re: RIP General
« Reply #148 on: June 21, 2013, 11:43:15 pm »
You have no idea how absolutely disappointed I am in this update.

For a very long while now, I have been waiting and hoping for an update from Feralheart. Since the last update was in December of 2011, I was expecting some huge spectacular update, like perhaps hunting prey, or more public maps! More markings, more manes, or maybe even a new body model!

Instead of a great update, I was greeted with... silence! I was so confused in general when absolutely no one was talking. I thought something was wrong with the game, like a mod had gotten mad at everyone and whatever had happened had gotten them so angered that no one spoke. Earlier today, I simply thought that general was incredibly oddly dead. It gave me an eerie feeling like we'd all done something wrong. I sat and waited around in general for a good ten minutes waiting for someone to speak. I don't see movie messages, so I had absolutely no clue this was going on... I didn't even know there was apparently movie spam happening until I decided to visit the forums to see if anyone was experiencing this "Dead general glitch", and I found this topic. Upon reading it, I absolutely and entirely disagree with this change. I don't like it at all. I use general for so many things! I look for roleplays on a daily basis there. I both ask for roleplays (I never advertised because I never make roleplays myself) and I join roleplays. I have met multiple people who became great friends with me in general! Because of this "update", roleplays are going to die quicker than ever. People are unhappy with the game.

I also like to use General for just, like the name states, general things! Not just for roleplay, but for entertainment as well. Making friends, talking to people, reading about their favorite whatevers and occasionally hearing a rant or two. I never minded any of that! That's the way general has always been. I find that people are always, for the most part, happy in general. Conversations are very silly and they bring a smile to my face when I'm in a bit of a foul mood. They do get  a little out of hand, yes, but there are warnings everywhere about these things. Isn't this game for 13+? If someone can't handle a little bit of adult humor, they either shouldn't be on this game or should just learn to deal with it. I have never once seen someone that had an actual problem with a conversation in general. I'm sure there's been a little bit of a tussle over a conversation, but I've never seen someone actually hate it. I've never even seen someone say that they actually, legitimately hated general and wanted it gone.

I say that the general be chat used as it would normally be intended for. General use! General doesn't mean anything specific, I believe. It can be for talking about food, complaining, just chatting, roleplaying, friend making... anything! You're taking away an important part of the game.

Sorry if I'm getting a bit repetitive, but I'm just typing what I think.

And, back on the topic of roleplaying... I know that there is a section for advertisements in the forums here. Some of you may say that we can simply use that, but it is most extremely easier said than done! For one, a lot of users don't even go to the forums. I, myself, don't usually go to the forums. I go to them to browse through maps and that is simply it. I also check out the website when I think something is up, like why no one was speaking in general. To use the forum ads, you would have to PM the leader of the group. PM them back and forth a couple times, perhaps having a little conversation for a moment or confirming a specific thing for their character, sending a roleplay sample to see if you're cut for the job... however then you have to set up a time to meet them. They may or may not come online for any sudden reason. They might have spelt their username wrong, so you couldn't whisper them easily in-game, they might not be where they said they would be, or anything ridiculous like that. With general, the person who says the ad is usually online after they say it. You can click on their name and can whisper them knowing without a doubt that it is them, and you can speak with them instantly without having to wait for one to log on like you would have to on the forums. In-game, you can join a roleplay within 10 minutes easily. Using the forums could take days. General makes for very fast and easy joining of groups.

Why was there not a poll for this kind of decision? Why was there not a better alternative?

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Well this was a suggestion and a number of people backed the idea.

Is this really true or is this just the opinion of a select group of people you always ask questions to? I haven't seen a suggestion like this anywhere ingame or on the forums.
I suggest that there be a poll. Let the players choose. This can't be something hidden away on the forums that goes almost entirely unannounced. This should be a poll for all to see, right smack dab on the top of the forums. Heck, on every page! Let there be a vote to keep general or to get rid of it. Ingame, there could be an hourly, red-lettered ad in every chat ingame about voting for the poll, so absolutely everyone knows about it. The hourly poll ad would say info about where to vote about the player's opinion. If people vote to keep general, general stays. If the majority vote is that general be removed permanently, so be it.

There could be a different solution to this, however, also. Anyone wishing to just advertise their roleplay would use a new advertising chat. General could be used for, as stated before, any general thing. The advertising chat could be used for the obvious. If someone is screwing around in the ad chat and it aggravates people enough, perhaps they could be flagged in a way. I don't believe there is any way to report people ingame as of now.

I find that there are better solutions to the problem of trolls in the general chat. You're going too far by entirely getting rid of the chat. There were no warnings prior to this whatsoever. If someone is really, truly being annoying, they either need to get kicked or banned. It's as simple as that. A fraction of people shouldn't have to effect the entire group.



Again, sorry if it sounds like I'm being repetitive. I'm voicing my mind on this, and simply trying to state my ideas for making the problem a lesser one. End of post.
 
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Re: RIP General
« Reply #149 on: June 21, 2013, 11:56:48 pm »
...This is my first post on the forums. THAT'S how much I dislike this movement.

Okay...
The removal of general was the most stupid thing anyone has ever done in cyberspace. No offence, please. My roleplay leader has no way to advertise now, no good way. Why didn't you just make the switch to turn off General a little more obvious? That way if someone got annoyed they could just turn it off. I know they can do this already but maybe some people didn't notice the button... or something.

I'm just really annoyed with this update at the moment. I'm sorry.