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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2018, 07:41:21 pm »
Hey, lurker and survivor of the 'mess'.
I agree. If you where to choose new staff. Choose wisely.
Glad to see this isnt the "demise" of FH, but rather a new begining.

However I too am confused on this whole thing. But I'll continue
To cooperative with whatever happens.. I'm not a side taker.
And I won't leave FH so easily.
Good luck
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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2018, 08:41:58 pm »
Hello!

I've been watching this board since around the time it was created.

Choose the staff wisely.

I wish you luck in regaining the trust of the community. When in public boards, I'll act like I still don't know, to maintain this board's cover.
If you need something, let me know and I'll try to help to the best of my ability, but I'll analyse each of my tasks to make sure they're right.

Nothing's going to push me away from FeralHeart while it's up and running.
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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2018, 08:54:32 pm »
So many things to talk about, i see talk of ficho's redesign.  The 1.15 ficho seems logical enough, and there's plenty of walls a portal could be put into without the radical redesigns seen recently.  Sure it doesn't have that waterfall people focus on, but that's not a major issue.
Edit: Oh, zama looked like a drag&drop replacement.  The fish were a nice touch. basic, but nice.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2018, 09:23:27 pm by Kuri »
The Japanese concept of wabisabi:
The closest concept in english would be 'rustic'
They might have an old thing, one example is a favourite bowl or dish, it's broken, pieces are missing, why fix it?  With gold and pieces from other dishes?
"Because it was my favourite & I like it"

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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2018, 10:17:06 pm »
I still have many mixed feelings after reading all of this. Yes, I absolutely want the game to continue on. But after all this commotion I'm not sure how that's going to happen.

No Moderator October hasn't started yet, no, but there were already masses of players spamming curses, slurs, and other foul words into the chats. The month hasn't even started. And this is already being done. There's still a few more days before it's implemented, and in the mean time there's no staff to handle reports of these heaps of rule breakers.

One thought may be that people will begin to use your system once it's put into place. But the biggest issue with this is, as someone who's been trying to keep people calm while all this is going on, that I've seen everyone is too scared to get on in order to do so. You said you are not one for explaining yourself, but I do believe your ban system is something that needs to be disclosed, because as of now 90% of the userbase believes that the ban system is that enough blocks on a person gets them banned, something that can easily be exploited. If those people are to return to the game and help maintain a healthy online environment, they need to know how the ban system works so that they feel safe enough to be able to come back. (Proof of this: https://feral-heart.com/smf/index.php?topic=64660.0 )

I'm very confused over whether or not you truly want staff.

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Also note moderator free October was preparation for the staffs departure.

The fact that you said this, but then said in this thread here that you're unsure how to go about hiring new staff just makes the No Moderator October thing seem meaningless, or as if you wanted to rid of the last staff team specifically.

I don't mean for that to sound like I'm hurling insults, I'm just stating what it looks like to someone with outside perspective. I.e., the rest of the Feralheart community.

If you truly do mean to create another staff team, I agree with the others in saying a mix of both old and new would be best. Most of us have no experience as staff, thus do not know what to look for in a staff member, so I cannot say we can provide good recommendations for new staff members. If you were to bring on a few old staff members, they would most likely help you best with that.

I would like to point out that it seems that the number of staff has always seemed... limited, in the past. Again, as I am not nor have been staff I do not know if there is a specific reason behind this, but I do sincerely believe that a slightly larger staff team would be beneficial to the entire community. A mix of old staff who can both train new staff and perform their old duties while teaching others to do the same.

As for where I stand on the matter, it's simply for the betterment of the game. With everything that has come out, I don't truly know what to believe, so I'll be sticking to facts if I can.
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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2018, 10:42:55 pm »


I'm very confused over whether or not you truly want staff.




Someone to keep the forums in line & hand out good advice isn't a bad thing.
I know a few people who'd be fit for that.  Some of them are probably reading this right now.
The Japanese concept of wabisabi:
The closest concept in english would be 'rustic'
They might have an old thing, one example is a favourite bowl or dish, it's broken, pieces are missing, why fix it?  With gold and pieces from other dishes?
"Because it was my favourite & I like it"

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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2018, 10:51:34 pm »


I'm very confused over whether or not you truly want staff.




Someone to keep the forums in line & hand out good advice isn't a bad thing.
I know a few people who'd be fit for that.  Some of them are probably reading this right now.

I didn't mean this to sound as if I think staff are a bad idea, I think quite the opposite. I believe they are essential for the game.

What I meant by that is that I'm not able to tell whether Raz desires staff based on things he has posted.

I'm just a little lost.
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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2018, 07:21:02 am »
Just to add onto everything, in a matter of explaining to people what are your intentions with the game (which I personally think are good). And how I think and why  you should explain even more than you already did.
I am not going to go into what happened between you and the Staff, currently our main goal is to fix this.
I think that you should post another explanation of what you would like to do with the game.
What you said to us about posting more frequent updates with small patches, having maps layed out differently and the thing you said about Bonfire and Ficho.
Also what you said about “Advertising chat” and how there would be waiting between adverts to reduce spam.
And to mention that you are indeed looking for a new Staff team.

I think that is what you should do, because community deserves to know these things.
I spend a lot of the time in game and on the forum, and most questions that are being asked is about the staff and what are your intentions with this game. People are afraid that you want to shut down the server but I am sure now that you don’t want to do that.

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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2018, 07:53:41 am »

Also what you said about “Advertising chat” and how there would be waiting between adverts to reduce spam.
And to mention that you are indeed looking for a new Staff team.

No don't tell anyone you're looking for staff, the mod beggers started circling the moment they heard the old ones were gone.  And mod beggers, are normally not the kind you want to have power.  As someone who spent much time on forums in the past i know that much from experience.
The Japanese concept of wabisabi:
The closest concept in english would be 'rustic'
They might have an old thing, one example is a favourite bowl or dish, it's broken, pieces are missing, why fix it?  With gold and pieces from other dishes?
"Because it was my favourite & I like it"

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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2018, 07:56:44 am »

Also what you said about “Advertising chat” and how there would be waiting between adverts to reduce spam.
And to mention that you are indeed looking for a new Staff team.

No don't tell anyone you're looking for staff, the mod beggers started circling the moment they heard the old ones were gone.  And mod beggers, are normally not the kind you want to have power.  As someone who spent much time on forums in the past i know that much from experience.

The fact that the Staff Team have already up and left has already evoked people to beg for position on the Staff Team. I do believe Razmirz isn't so desperate as to actually give them power if they're on their knees for it, but show no specific skills and ability to be capable of dealing with the hard work and dedication required to working on the Staff Team.

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Re: Welcome to hmm
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2018, 03:07:51 pm »
Alot to respond to here...
I'll start with Edo

The community is still here. In fact a lot of faces who haven't even been around for a long time are coming out of the woodwork just to see what's going on. Personally I've a been approached by a load of ex staff telling me their inboxes are going crazy. The community historically has had bigger hiccups.

As for no mod October I wasn't actually ready for the staff to leave(I expected them to based on tensions in the staff team). Hell I haven't finished coding the AI. Never mind feeding it test data. I thought I had almost a full week now with everything else going on I'm further stretched.

With the staff gap of course I'm looking but its not the easiest thing to just pickup a team out of nowhere when your not in a community facing role.

When it comes to learning moderation ropes actual moderation doesn't take much lock move delete edit. There is a guidebook made by red and there will be someone more involved than me to train anyone selected.

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I'm believe most of what you have covered I have somewhat answered either in the response above or previous answers. However you mention the reasons for the staff leaving. I was in conversation with Sura last night. We are still talking. Its been mentioned about a joint smoothing over post considering how everything snowballed very quickly.

I think that covers what I can immediately answer from what you have all said.
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