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Game Discussion / Re: Just to see the numbers... (General Chat Poll)
« on: June 22, 2013, 11:45:24 pm »
A poll is a good idea, but unfortuantely... I don't think it's going to get much attention here. :\ Hopefully a mod or admin will make a poll in News/Updates so that more people will see it. But that's only the people who visit the forums regularly? How will people who only play in-game know about it? And surely it affects them too.

-sigh- Good idea, though! ^^'

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News Archives / Re: RIP General
« on: June 22, 2013, 11:26:27 pm »
Well this situation turned into a pile of crap in a matter of moments.

First of all, let's get some things straight.

'Opinion: Noun.
1. A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
2. The beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.


Fact: Noun.
1. A thing that is indisputably the case.
2. Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.
'

As defined by Google's dictionary resources, these two words are not the same. And you could say that's a fact.
Now let's make sure we all know the difference between them and try not to pass off one for the other.

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If I'm honest, I'm still ticked off about general being removed. But what I'm getting increasingly more ticked off about is the way the situation is being handled by both sides. Yes, I would like general back a lot, but now that I think about it, I would like our community back even more.

The way everyone is addressing this issue is really making me sick; name calling, cussing, insulting, accusing, etc., or banning and kicking, is by no means any way to get your point across, but it is understandable that the mods and admins have banned and kicked users if they have broken the game rules. But, as I was not present at the said arguements/protests in game at the moment, I have no knowing of who to believe and how much of it.

I think a lot of valid points and statements have been made, and a lot of heavily biased or untrue statements/points as well. As I've seen many people say along these lines:

Most of the posts here want General back, and there are LOTS of groups in Fluorite wanting it back...

While in truth I've seen quite a few people who are okay with the change, or are alright sitting it out for now. And to prove my point further:

I know I already posted and might be inviting disaster by posting this reply, but has ANYONE checked the statistics!?
You all are shouting that some 99% of the community want general back.
I will look at the number of replies here and subtract 19 from that number, for replies of the same members and for replies of the people who want general to remain gone.
So 169-19=160, right? So around 160 members (that we are aware of) disagree or are not very happy with general being gone.
Now look at the statistics page...
Total Members: 194974

Lets take 194974 and compare it to 160...

Equation time!

194974 = 160
 100%      X%

So, 100 x 160= 16000
Now, 16000/194974 = 0.082% <-- That's the percentage of people who have DECLARED their insatisfaction with general being gone.

100% - 0.082% = 99.918% <-- Percentage of people who either: Didn't see the change (weren't active), want general gone, are able to adapt or don't mind.

Thank you, Thantos, someone finally took the initiative to work out some numbers! ^^ However on the other hand, there are a few things I'd also like to point out: "So 169-19=160, right?" is actually off by 10, and the correct number would be... 150. Also, "Total Members: 194974," there are plenty of double, triple, etc. accounts by the same person. And "100% - 0.082% = 99.918% <-- Percentage of people who either: Didn't see the change (weren't active)..." there are plenty of people who no longer play, or as you said, are no longer active. So unfortunately, there's a lot to account for and there isn't really a way to have exact numbers unless you have statistics for active members.

The best way of calculating that number would be by adding a poll for all active users to participate in. And for that to work, you'll have to make sure that everyone can see it- the best place would probably be here in the News/Updates section. BUT, what about those users who do not check the forum regularly or at all? Maybe they've come in once or twice since general's been down, but if you add the poll now, where will they be? How are you going to get them to vote so that it will be fair? I do not like the idea of the servers being closed for a week or so that all users can be informed, but if that means everyone gets a fair change at voting, then how else can we find what the majority thinks, and the best solution? I'm up for better suggestions, but at the rate that this seems to be getting handled (and I don't think it's being addressed very well at the moment...), something should be done soon and for everyone.

And yeah, it looks like I've contradicted my own opinion of wanting general back in my post, but you know what? It's just one opinion against the majority- and what the community wants is most important. Should general be brought back, or should it stay removed? I don't know, we'll have to see. But it's definitely not fair to have either side silenced or ignored. If what I'm saying ends up keeping general removed because most of the users want it that way, then so be it. The staff has to make these kind of sacrifices, so we should understand their position by being open to having our own opinions sacrificed as well. I was strongly against the idea of general being permanently removed when this first happened, and I still am. But I'm even more against sitting around and insulting or accusing people, or being unfair for all of FH. We all have to understand each other, and I stand by what I've said before- unfortunately, I think both sides of this argument are guilty of not being open and understanding to the other side's problems and opinions.

How about instead of fighting among ourselves, we all sit down and try to find the best solution? I'm tired of people arguing, of people spreading rumors, and people insulting and accusing everyone. As I've learned from many years being on the internet, no one gives a rats butt about your opinion if you're only going to insult or disregard theirs.


Thank you for reading,~ and have a nice day wherever and whoever you are.
-Wolfy/Grinny

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News Archives / Re: RIP General
« on: June 21, 2013, 01:31:47 am »
I can see why some people may have felt the need to get rid of General: trolls, spammers, inappropriate conversations and the like certainly were a bit of a problem. But you know what? That's why the mods are there. To keep unruly players in check with that all-commanding red text and sparingly given words of warning when the occasion required it. I can't help but wonder if this was partly a way to avoid hard work, pretty much the only in-game work that was ever necessary. Also, reporting was definitely an option if no mods stepped in, which I've gladly done on more occasions than I can count. The trolls, spammers, and inappropriate conversations haven't gone away, not at all. Only now they're in less public chats where they can't always be seen by the right people and shut down. To me, that seems like creating a problem rather than solving it.

In terms of advertising: it's just...it can't be done properly. General gave RP leaders a place to state some info about their group, and invite in anyone who chose to read the chat. But with Local ads and movies, advertising has become a primitive and somewhat clumsy activity, a rather painful one to watch and even worse to try and participate in. About a week ago I created a group, whipped up a nice little map and got everything set up. I was so excited to go and grab some members and make some new friends, when suddenly this happened. The character I use to lead the group is one of my current favourites so I often go on him anyway, but it just ends up saddening me when every now and then I think "Oh, I should advertise for some members!- oh wait...I can't. Goodbye group".
The kind of long, descriptive ads that once graced General seem useless and out of place in Local. You spend all that time typing out a concise, informative ad and then it only gets seen by seven people. Movies are worse by far however, with their extremely limited text space and tendency not to work for so many players.

Life on FH now: whenever I log on, I feel like I've entered a ghost town or some quarantined city with no means of communication to the outside world. There's this giant, oppressive emptiness that just takes all the life from the game. Yeah, so it forces people to go and look for each other, but why was that necessary? What was wrong with sitting comfortably in a nice spot and participating in a good old bit of General chat? I, like many others on here, was one of those people who didn't enjoy the crowded spots where all you could see was nametag after nametag. I loved nothing better than finding a quiet spot to watch the sky or spectate a random RP while I had a good time on General. Now that's gone, because apparently there was something wrong with staying in one spot that you enjoyed.

And most importantly, about the execution of this change: I didn't hear a peep about this until I wandered confusedly into the forum, and found this topic after an eerily quiet day in Fluorite. There was no little notice on the login screen, no "monthly update" forum topic as it has been mentioned by other people here, no warning whatsoever. I wouldn't be half as frustrated as I am if you had told us what was happening before it happened. Heck, would it be so hard to put up a poll and ask us our opinions before you go wrenching out such an important part of the game? Lots of people have said it before, and I'm going to back them up. This game has really lost its sense of community in the recent past, and this didn't help that one bit. You say that other people's opinions were asked, but who? Were they players who loved General and used it every day, or were they mods who looked at the green chat and saw nothing but a mild inconvenience to be swept under the carpet? I really don't understand what possible reason you could have come up with to justify ripping away one of the best parts of the game. Now advertising is awkward as hell to say the least, and I feel completely alienated from everyone in-game as no doubt others do too.

I suggest that either General should be brought back immediately, or a poll should be placed somewhere very obvious on the forum for every player to give their view and the situation be taken from there.

I believe Ax here has said it the best; I agree with almost everything she has said here.

I would like to add, however, that General is almost like a person to some of us. Many of us would personify ol' Gen Gen, and he became a part of us. A part of our community. I'm really saddened and disappointed by this whole... mess. I can't even call it and 'update' because it's not. An update would be a patch- something that would require us going back to the FH website and downloading that latest version of it for changed content that was required to continue playing the game. Does anyone remember that? Those little messages that appeared in the update/patch box on the login screen? Yeah, I gave up with that a long time ago. Because I know that that requires changing the coding and editing the actual game- not just pressing some almighty button that gets rid of something in the game. So I can't even call this an 'update'. More like a 'downgrade' if anything.

Anyways, what I was trying to say before was that for some of us in FH, General is not just a chat. He was a dear friend of ours that was always there for us if we needed someone to talk to. He could always keep us company, provide us with laughs and entertainment, and help us make new friends. Why would getting rid of him bring the community together? Why would wrenching out a large part of Feral Heart's past, and our legacy, make the place a little bit better?

I remember, seems like a long time ago, when there were people who we called Generalists. Because they wouldn't do too much but sit around and have a good time in general. Even us- simple commoners of FH- would know them. Because they'd be there out in general, chatting away and enjoying themselves. I could name off some of them right now, because there was a point in FH history where they left us. Calico... Bononos 8D... Cheetos... now it's been a long time since I've seen any of them. Since I've talked to them. Since I've even thought about them. But I'll always remember them. You know why? Because one day I was feeling like crap. I was just having a terrible day when I logged into FH, and just wanted to escape the world for a little bit. And I remember, sitting alone in the Plains, and the generalists were chatting, just talking about who knows what. Random stuff. And I watched the chat scroll by, and the little jokes and remarks made here and there, and they made me smile. I remember that I braved to say something in general, and just like that I was in the random conversation and laughing right along with them. Their outgoing attitude and willingness to talk, and be open to anyone made my day just that much better. And when I said I had to go and logged off, I felt content. Because those generalists- and everyone else that had been participating in general that day- had helped remind me that there were always good things in the world. There was always laughs and good times, and just a little bit of courage and a whole lot of friendliness could get you there.

And that's why I really don't want to see my dear friend Gen Gen go. Because he's not just a chat for trolls and spammers, he's someone who means a lot to the people of FH. Because not only do RPers need them (and that's a huge part that I haven't covered, but a lot of other people have), but so do us commoners of FH. Now call me old school, call me stubborn, call me anything you wish- but in all my FH days I've already had plenty of my dear online friends come and go. Seen them die off because whatever reason. So please, I'm asking you that you reconsider this choice, and don't let our dear friend General die as well.


<3, Wolfy.

P.S. *And I'm not bashing on anyone here. I will not disrespect the staff, but I just please ask that they reconsider this decision. If we are a community based game, then we should be working together to come to a solution, or if not resolve it, then work to find the best compromise. How can we ever be a community if only one side does something, or if we come at each other's throats? And I think all of us are at least a little guilty of that. All I would like to see is that this decision be reconsidered where both sides are involved equally... Thank you.

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((Oi, well, everything I was going to say I already sent to Draco in a note, which really doesn't matter anymore. >.> I'm posting to say I'm still here, but unfortunately cannot RP for crap at the moment... but I'll edit this post later and try to get in some RP. I mean, I know what I want to write, I just... can't. Sorry, please give me a moment. v.v''))

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"'Welcome."

Kyler replied as if it were no big deal, selected a variety of breakfast foods he had dumped onto his tray onto his fork. He glanced over to Mirris, whom was desperately trying- and failing- at any interaction with the young man's spirit as it hurried back into his now-removed hood. He purposely didn't say anything further when his hood was down, and instead Kyler mimicked a short bird call in Mirrie's direction, and she turned her attention to him and hopped over with deflated spirits. "It's okay, Mirrie. Here, have some berries," Kyler offered her a small cup of assorted wild berries, hoping to cheer her up. She seemed slightly more enthusiastic at the sight of it, and went to pick at the fruit, every once and a while glancing up to check to see if the other spirit had changed its mind about saying hello.

Kyler smiled gently, and rubbed a forefinger along the side of Mirrie's cheek, and then turned back to the pair across the table. "Oh, I almost forgot," he chuckled, "This is my mocking jay spirit, Mirris. And I'm Kyler Morriz. Technically I'm a Master rank here, but most I don't compete that often and instead I help train the new recruits and anyone that would like some pointers."

He extended a strong hand across the table as he introduced himself and Mirrie, his signature friendly smile still spread across his face.

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So it's gonna be like this, eh? Kyler thought absently; not through annoyance, but more so through observation. Kyler hesitated for a moment, weighing whether or not to persist or not- and he even opened his mouth to insist- but then closed his jaw and decided that it would probably only make the conversation even more redundant and not to mention awkward.

With a quick shrug and an 'okay, thanks,' Kyler placed his loaded tray down and took up the seat across from the young man. A grin weaved it's way back onto his face, and he sat there quietly smiling back at the interesting figure across from him for a second, before turning to his food and picking up a fork. Mirrie hopped her way down from his shoulder and onto the table, letting out a few chirps of interest as well, her head tilted to an angle. She hopped to the side to try and get a better glance at the creature that had scurried up the young man's arm before she had a chance to say hello, trying to make a friendly connection. She sang a few notes of a nameless melody to try and get the spirit's attention, her head turning from side to side in the way that birds do when they try and focus on any one thing.

Kyler glanced at Mirrie as he dove his fork into a pile of eggs- enthusiastically, but not sloppily or uncourteously- before turning back to his breakfast. A movement in front of him caught his periphial vision; the young man was drawing up his hood again to cover his bright red hair. After a moment of silence, Kyler brought a sausage on the tip of his fork to his mouth and muttered clearly and casually, but in a matter-of-fact voice, pristine grey eyes fixed on the piece of meat, "I think your red hair looks nice."

Kyler bit the end of the sausage, and then returned the fork and the rest of the meat to his plate carefully, following it with his eyes all the way down. Finally, he lifted his gaze to meet the young man's, lingering for a second or two, before pulling them away and clearing his throat, trying to suppress another one of his infectious grins.

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News Archives / Re: March Updates 1/3
« on: May 11, 2013, 06:39:02 pm »
No offense, but it's may. We never had an April Updates or May Updates. I was wondering if we will get a new update thread anytime soon? If there is some problem causing the delays on them I totally understand and am sorry if I came off as rude, but yeah....
I agree...it has been over a month that we had any official updates on the game.
I know there isn't much to update the players about, but it really isn't professional to just leave players hanging like that.

Totally understand if the staff have been stressed to be active lately or if there any other problems that is causing the delay in updates.

You're right, the staff have not posted an update for April or May, but we should give them time. There could be multiple reasons why they haven't yet- staff is always busy trying to stay on top of everything. As Feareh had suggested, they might do a huge news thread in May because it was already late into April to have monthly news. I don't know anything about it, but we should just be patient and keep our eyes peeled as one might be coming soon. Any whining or complaining won't make them post one faster. If anything, it may make a staff member less eager to post it.

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..."I-I don't... It's not my choice to make..."

The reply brought Kyler's full attention away from the bustling cafeteria and back towards the young man's lowered gaze with guarded interest and slight amusement (not in a negative way). "What do you mean 'not your choice'?" Kyler asked, his expression softening. "'Course it is! You can say whether you'd like me to sit here or not."

His grey eyes studied the young man turned downwards to the table and the food tray before him incredulously. Even his creature had scurried up his arm and hid in his hood- which evidently knocked it down again to reveal the man's red hair, causing Kyler's grey eyes to flick their gaze on it for a moment before returning to his face, deciding not to say anything about it- yet.

From the position the young man was in, he couldn't tell if he was looking at him or not, but he still offered a friendly smile as he stood at the seat across from him. The thought of sitting down anyways flashed through Kyler's mind, but he disregarded it in an instant- he wouldn't just barge in and sit there without asking. He wanted to be as respectful and open as possible with the man.

"I'm cool with anything, honestly. It's totally up to you!"

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Forum Games / Re: Count to 50 before a admin/mod posts :]
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:32:35 am »
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Oh, really? Wow. Thanks, Thierry.~

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