Theft

[silver_wolf]

i made a map on special request for a lion pride, and suddenly loads of italian people turn up in it, claiming they found the link on the internet and that it is a public map. i tell them over and over it is not and i ask them to get out. they even start insulting me and calling me a stupid son of a -Removed by moderator-. they still wont get out no matter what i do. should i report them to the admins for theft and insulting language, and if i do, will it work?

[Asheyx]

Definitaly report them! It's against the rules to use strong language.
Take a screenshot of it and PM them to one of the admins on here.

[JazzForLife]

There is not much we can do about private maps. But, if you want a map to be totally and undoubtably private, I would send the link to the requester via pm.

As for the screenshots Ashy mentioned, they are needed. We, the staff, can't take action without proof from screenshots, especially because it is in a private map.

[Nick77]

report them they shoud get banned for a pretty long time and sorry about that

[Moclam]

Report them for sure. They need to know they can't do that.

And also, hence the fact there in that map, and if they keep turning up, you can always
export the map with a different file name. It's a sad thing when people do that. I've had it happen
about three times to me before. You just have to work around it, really.

[Meiari]

Personally, I think that the creator of the map should have the power and right to kick and ban from their own map. I hear about this often, either maps somehow get 'broken into', or there's a dispute within a group, and someone whom was asked to leave, well, doesn't leave.

[silver_wolf]

ive reported all the ones i found in there when i went in, and i will continue to report new people in here.

Melari, i like that idea. i actually posted a thread on the games ideas board and it included that.

[Redlinelies]

As mentioned earlier, we could use some screens. The map claiming is one thing but if people insult you for being in your map they can get in some problem. Though they have to get the link from somewhere like the forum, ingame group bios or rp threads/map threads which is visible for all. Don't think they got straight of the webby.

About being able to kick from maps, heres some old sturf written.

I would understand the frustration if there were newbies walking around pretending they were the ones making it and claim your map as theirs(even though I haven't had a problem with it myself yet).

In a way this can "almost" be seen as some sort of stealing, but we do put links out for the public, and there's many users that simply don't have any manners or a sense for rules which is kinda sad.

I see a few problems with these suggestions though but I do like the idea of users being able to tag there maps, but I really wonder what sort of effect it would have and how it would be made.

There's no map bio function in the game/map info button, where would information be shown about the map without making a whole new function? We both know that the map maker are an offline function so connecting it together with the mp part somehow wouldn't be too effective(Say this for those having ideas going that way).

About that kick function, I don't think it will ever happen and personally I'm not even sure if I want to see one, but let me explain why.

If there were a kick function to be added so users could kick other ones out of the map/game it would also mean a completely new game function would have to be made, one that keep tracks on WHO made the map by it's username, and when they enter the map, and as mentioned earlier, the map maker isn't really a part of the Multiplayer and the accounts there. The exports folder is more made to communicate with the cape map inside the game, which would "probably" make it easier to give powers via the map maker anyway.

I just don't see an easy implementation of this in any way. Making a function that lets certain people(mods) kick out users from the game is probably one thing, but making another one that lets certain users kick out other certain users from just the map to another map, or just the game is probably a lot harder to make.

With that said, ingame mods are probably missing tools and functions for being able to monitor the game smoothly, and these haven't been made yet even though there's a big need of it. When would the idea of users kicking others out of maps become a real deal if it were seen as a good idea? I see the game falling short in quite a few things, but users being able to kick in private maps is probably not one of them.

I kinda see it coming that it could get quite a fuzz if not even more than it is now about users in custom maps kicking eachothers out, members feeling mistreated etc.

I could probably have written this post in a slightly clearer way, but I do feel I was still too tired xD

However, people got different opinions, but I personally don't see a good way to add these function, or why they'd be "that" good for us in the community, though. This makes me wonder if there needs to be added a line somewhere in the rules about stealing custom maps. Sure it would be impossible to keep a track on everything going on, but if a member of this community clearly claims a map that isn't there so badly, so they jump on the map creator, the map creator should be able to report this and possibly get them warned.

But aye.. That rule wouldn't truthfully be 100% solid either.

Maybe others like the kick/name idea, but I'm not sure I do. If there were a standard in the future though that lets people add map bios that you could access from within the game, it should totally have the map makers name though. Meanwhile you should always put your name in the readme somewhere or maybe even the zipped/rared folder name. Though some can probably jump past that as well.

Thinking of this whole idea, I'm starting to wonder what's on my mind the most, the subject here about being able to kick and show who made the map from within the game. Or about that users actually are THAT stupid to claim maps that aren't even theirs in the first place. lol.

Very derpish thing to do.

Thankz gaara, I like to postiesss

Lol , i'mma write this anyway xD If the kick function would be added it could work like this : You go to map maker and open a file , then save your username and password there .. only the computer you made the map in could contain that file and it would be impossible to copy it ... so if you enter your map sorta a login option pops out ,(still , only in the computer where the map was made xP) you enter your username and password .

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Alright so i personally think that should contain the kick function and maybe the red text whatever thingy xD because many people get sorta ''scared'' of the red text and start behaving .. i've seen it myself , i was a leader of a pack once and the red text appeared and told the member not to curse .. everyone calmed down and continued the RP . Usually most people wont disobey a mod/red text XD . Although there are some exceptions , that would be where the kick function would come in .

(lol sorry i forgot a lot of what i read so i might have repeated it xD)
(Or if it didn't make any sense xD I'm not very good with explaining thingies xD)



Woof ! By Ramine ^^

The problem still remains. Not all users can stay of that kick button. Half of the rps would probably get people kicked out just because the creator of the map doesn't like where it's heading. You'd still have to find a way to implement the function in to the game even if you had a text on client side saying "these users can kick". Not to mention a loginbox lol. That would probably make it even more complicated to make.

Another good thing to keep in mind is that mods are the only ones that should be able to use that text for a reason,  they're after all.. the mods. If everyone with a custom map are able to use it, I'd actually see a peak of people mass abusing it for fun, and also how it would die down after some time. Not to mention that the so called "scary" parts of it, would probably not be as scary anymore xD

The map creator being able to kick other users out I'd accept, I'm more against how it would work putting it inside the game. They shouldn't have any resemblance to the mods if that would happen as well.

But really, I still think pretty much the same as before.

Kicking is not a completely bad idea though, but how it would be added, when it would be added and how it should work for the better is a bit "meh".

[Meiari]

I see what you're saying, Red. I've seen people kicked from groups because the leader didn't like the way their characters behaved in the RP (which is kind of idiotic in itself if you ask me XD). But after going through the somewhat tedious task of typing in the Mediafire link, downloading it, risking nasty little viruses, then placing everything where it's supposed to go and sometimes not getting it right the first time, it would be disheartening to be kicked from the map just because the leader decides he doesn't like you or your character. But it seems like there should be some sort of penalty for people actually breaking rules in a person's private map. which the person took time and effort to create. But really the only thing I can see is you know, printscreening their misbehavior and reporting it. On that note, how come the Report button never works ingame?

[Redlinelies]

I can understand that, sometimes I just wish people would get along better but that might seem like too much asked at times. People put down much time and spirit into their rps and sometimes they are unlucky.

I'm actually kinda ashamed to say this, but the ingame report button in the game doesn't work because it hasn't been made to work properly yet. Where the reports go I have no real idea of. Thing is that the report button should've been removed long ago if you ask me, there was a big discussion thread about this on the forum a while ago arr so those people that think the mods don't care about reports are rather wrong. The only one that can remove or change this report function is kov right now I believe.

If you need to report something, the best way would be to send screenshots and texty thingy to mods here on the forum via PM so they can look into it.