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Run Cycles [idea]
« on: April 18, 2012, 10:43:48 am »
Okay, even Impressive World have been able to update their run cycles to something midly more realistic, so I'm thinking, why not FH. I refrained from mentioning Aerokai for the obvious reason...it's flawless.
So, I was wondering why the run cycles couldn't be edited just to make it feel slightly more realistic, I know several animators out there who can replicate the basic feline and canine run cycle and who would do so for this game is asked nicely (and probably paid), also I think there are preset models or cycles somewhere as well, that I'm not too clear on.

Conclusion;
- current run cycles, whilst durable, are not realistic or believable. These can be changed but is anyone willing?

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 11:01:12 am »
Indeed it would be really nice to get it replaced. But i think the problem is, that Kov would have to give out the original Blender files, what he wont do as i know. I already asked for them to try myself on animating them, but i only have the old files and with these i cant animate them right, since the wings armatures are missing :/

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 11:19:56 am »
Indeed it would be really nice to get it replaced. But i think the problem is, that Kov would have to give out the original Blender files, what he wont do as i know. I already asked for them to try myself on animating them, but i only have the old files and with these i cant animate them right, since the wings armatures are missing :/

I don't understand, why wouldn't he give out the original blender files to better futher the game? No-one is going to steal them, especially if they're given to someone trustworthy like yourself. Every other game has their own run cycles and are probably not interested in "stealing" Kovu's...on that matter, probably no one is interested in stealing them...
Am I wrong in saying Kovu's mistrust isn't allowing the game to progress? Or am I jumping le gun?

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 04:30:01 pm »
I think, in my opinion, saying that Aro'Kai's running cycle is flawless is unintelligent at best, seeing as how the game has yet to be released or programmed far enough at all to even aim for flawless.

However, it is also my opinion that Kov's mistrust of /some/ of his staff is, to be blunt, stupid. I understand after the hackings with Impressive Title that sharing any thing game related may not be on his agenda... But then there's the FH+. Simba was given permission and access to altering game files. It simply makes no sense whatsoever. Considering even members like Tigg aren't allowed to change something as simple (in relation to signature files) as the running cycle. Or even for Red to create maps for the game, is all questionable and honestly, a bad move on Kov's end as he loses favor.

But yes, in relation to the actual post, the idea is a good one.

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 05:30:01 pm »
I think, in my opinion, saying that Aro'Kai's running cycle is flawless is unintelligent at best, seeing as how the game has yet to be released or programmed far enough at all to even aim for flawless.

However, it is also my opinion that Kov's mistrust of /some/ of his staff is, to be blunt, stupid. I understand after the hackings with Impressive Title that sharing any thing game related may not be on his agenda... But then there's the FH+. Simba was given permission and access to altering game files. It simply makes no sense whatsoever. Considering even members like Tigg aren't allowed to change something as simple (in relation to signature files) as the running cycle. Or even for Red to create maps for the game, is all questionable and honestly, a bad move on Kov's end as he loses favor.

But yes, in relation to the actual post, the idea is a good one.

Love that, anyway.
Again, the issue of Kov's mistrust and I agree 100% with that.
Thanks for the praise for the idea, not so much the first bit though >D

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 05:35:47 pm »
Yes, it would be wonderful if the running cycle would be more realistic, but like Tigg said Kov probably wont give out the files. :/

However, it is also my opinion that Kov's mistrust of /some/ of his staff is, to be blunt, stupid.

To be honest, Kov never wanted staff, but we're still here. He didn't pick the staff members, so he doesn't know if we can be trusted, although I don't think he'd share the codes/models with any of us even if he did pick us.

FH+ isn't really a game of it's own you know. It's actually just a mod/add-on, Simba just altered the textures and maps a little.

The staff is trying their best to get Kov to add things to this game, it's just not that easy.


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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 06:25:59 pm »
Yes, it would be wonderful if the running cycle would be more realistic, but like Tigg said Kov probably wont give out the files. :/

However, it is also my opinion that Kov's mistrust of /some/ of his staff is, to be blunt, stupid.

To be honest, Kov never wanted staff, but we're still here. He didn't pick the staff members, so he doesn't know if we can be trusted, although I don't think he'd share the codes/models with any of us even if he did pick us.

FH+ isn't really a game of it's own you know. It's actually just a mod/add-on, Simba just altered the textures and maps a little.

The staff is trying their best to get Kov to add things to this game, it's just not that easy.

So yeah, we've come to the conclusion because of the "leaders" inability to trust to take steps forward, the game is staying in one place. He could pick game only staff, I mean, he probably has outside sources or could ask around for staff who specialise in that sort of thing. There are solutions to his "problems", it's a shame those solutions are being pushed away.

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 11:09:58 am »
Indeed, but I'm starting to think he doesn't really care about his own creation. He claims to be working on prey,
although I don't think it's true.
Kov's most likely spending all his free time on creating that Facebook game.
Thanks to his somewhat stubborn nature the game will probably not be updated any time soon. And that's just sad. :/


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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 04:19:35 pm »
Indeed, but I'm starting to think he doesn't really care about his own creation. He claims to be working on prey,
although I don't think it's true.
Kov's most likely spending all his free time on creating that Facebook game.
Thanks to his somewhat stubborn nature the game will probably not be updated any time soon. And that's just sad. :/


Oh, for a while I've thought/know he doesn't truely care. I mean when he lied the first time, it was a major slap in the face, just to wake up and get real, in a way. I very much doubt he's working on prey, but I'm not going to bash him completely, since he did get the wings up and running as well as roar and howl (or maybe that was something else), but yeah, it's a shame that he "trusts no-one" and isn't prepared to take that step forward.
None of our "complaints" or "suggestions" seem to be hitting him at all, either.

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Re: Run Cycles [idea]
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 06:41:31 pm »


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