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Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« on: May 02, 2013, 05:03:55 am »
Have you ever had some random player come interupt a roleplay fight, squable, hunt, because they feel the need to step in and take sides? I've noticed that whenever I roleplay in a voluntary RP fight or hunt, sometimes some random stranger would come out of nowhere and try to help out in the fight or save the prey animal from being hunted.
 
Don't know what I mean? Here are a few example incidents.
This one warrior she-cat ASKED me to be a fox and kill her character as part of a roleplay plot. I even asked her "Are you sure you want me to kill your character? Is that really what you want?" and she said, "Yes. This character needs to be reincarnated."... or something like that. So I agreed and played as a rabid fox character. This is how the scene went. (The names were made up for the scenerio, since I don't remember all of them.)


Dovewing F: "The she-cat warrior saw a feild mouse scuttling through the grass. She crouched down and began stalking it."
Rabid Grey Fox: -The rabid fox clumsily stumbled his way down the hill. He was foaming at the mouth, and was disoriented and confused. He saw the she-cat hunting and began to snarl madly, foam dripping from his mouth.-
Dovewing F: -She was too busy hunting to notice the fox coming up behind her-
Rabid Grey Fox: -With a gurgling snarl, he charged forward at the she-cat.-
Dovewing: -She looked up and screached in terror- "Oh no!" :O
All of the sudden this random apprentice, who wasn't even in her clan showed up. But I went along with it
Greypaw: -She jumped on the fox and knocked him over-
Rabid Grey Fox: -He fell to the ground with a thud. He tried to get up, but he was too wobbly and weak from his illness.-
Random Red Fox: -She leapt at Dovewing and started tearing into her shoulder-
Dovewing: -She yowled in pain as she was being attacked by now two foxes.-
Greypaw: -He jumped foward and bit down on the red fox's paw- "Leave her alone!" she hissed.
So the fight goes on and on and on... skip ahead a few lines
Dovewing: I don't need you to fight for me Greypaw))
Greypaw: Well I was only trying to help you. How come you won't fight back?))
Dovewing: I'm supposed to die. I asked the fox to kill me))
Rabid Grey Fox: She asked me to attack and kill her))
Rabid Grey Fox: This was a voluntary fight))
Greypaw: Oh sorry. I didn't know ))


Here is a different scene that I witnessed. This took place in a lion pride out in Flourite Plains.....

Mother lioness: "I told you to stay near the pride. You disobeyed me again. Do you realize you could have been killed?"
Dawn lion cub: "I'm sorry, Mother. I didn't mean to wonder off far. I just got lost."
Mother lioness: "Lies!" she roared. "This is the third time you've run away from the pride territory. You leave me no choice but to punish you."
Dawn lion cub: "No please, Mother! I promise I won't do it again!" he cried. D:
Mother lioness: -She took her son by the scruff of the neck and started swatting his behind- "No means no," she said angrily.
Dawn lion cub: -He began to cry as his mother spanked him.- D'X
Random wolf pup: -He jumped at the mother lion and bit  throat- LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Mother lioness: -She pushed the wolf pup off her- "He's my son, and I am teaching him a lesson."
Random wolf pup: Hey I bit your neck. you should be bleeding. Why are u beating on him?
Mother lioness: This is part of the RP))
Dawn lion cub: Please go away, wolf pup))
Random wolf pup: Im helping you dawn!!!
Dawn lion cub: I don't need your help. She is playing my mother and she is doing what she is supposed to do))
Mother lioness: Yeah))
Random wolf pup: FINE!! Let her b a bad mom to you!!
and the pup storms off



I've seen other roleplays where people who were not part of the RP would get involve in the fight, or interupt the hunt, or want to step in. It's understandable that some people want to step in and help with a little RP disagreement, but sometimes help is not wanted. In fact, I sometimes find it rude that some people want to jump in the fight with their powerplaying/godmodding. For one, they didn't even ask.
When I was new to FH, I would do that too. Often times they would tell me to "go away" or block me, because that squable was part of their RP. So from then on, I don't get involved unless someone were to ASK for my help. I don't get involved unless someone says "Somebody save me!" or "Someone help!" Other than that, I just stay out of it and play as a spectator.

There have been times when someone would step in to help one of my characters, because they found themselves in a sticky situation. There was one time where this wolf wanted to protect Kopper and a fox kit from being harrassed by a clan of warrior cats. He wasn't the powerplaying kind of wolf either. In fact, he handled the situation really well in RP mode. But then there were times when I was fighting someone (Voluntarily) and some random person would come along and attack me with powerplaying moves. Really now?

Has this ever happened to you? Do you have any similar stories to share? Anything at all?
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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 09:55:35 am »
Hmph. Yes. I very much understand you.
I have witnessed some of those as well.
They can really drive you mad.
But I don't think it will stop happening.
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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 11:47:24 am »
Man.. Isn't that silly? XD. That's very silly of them.

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 12:29:12 pm »
I used to do that too, until I understood, that not all rps are connected, and that really, they are separet rps, that have thier own story for their own reasons, so I stopped. I dont think its ever happened to me though, maybe a few times with some good rpers, which I didnt mind.

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 12:46:32 pm »
Yeah, it gets kind of awkward when people just try to jump into your RP.
Especially when they aren't the right species for it either. xD

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 04:37:03 pm »
Honestly it's hard to actually help people who want help when you yourself don't know it's a RP. For instant, I'm at AI, and I overhear two peps somewhat fighting. I intervene to try to keep peace in the area till they say "Dude we are RPing...leave us alone" BI....
Kids these days man, how in the world Re others suppose to know if they are serious or not. Usually you will sometimes know when a RP "play fight" gets out of hand and being a good floof you will say something.

Why do we honestly get involved...well, one reason is the public area is rightfully for everyone, and younger kids don't really need to hear"Well I am lord of the ninjas and you can't do anything about it-inserts childish rant here-" I don't know...I guess being a little older floof then the rest here I sometimes do say something in situations like this
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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 06:12:38 pm »
Honestly it's hard to actually help people who want help when you yourself don't know it's a RP. For instant, I'm at AI, and I overhear two peps somewhat fighting. I intervene to try to keep peace in the area till they say "Dude we are RPing...leave us alone" BI....

oh yeah I've been through that time and time before xD Some people get way to serious with the fighting in their RPs and I think that they're fighting in real life or something. Usually when that happens I try to whisper one of the spectators what's going on or I'd whisper one of the people fighting and ask if they are rping or not. Often the TLKers in Bonfire get into some heated RP fights that it's so hard to tell if they are rping or not.

Back to the basic topic though yeah I've been in rps and had people jump in out of no where and try to stop a fight or save lives etc. This one time I was playing a character that was dying of old age and this random wolf came in and kept revivng me lmao. I kept telling them that my character has to die but the wolf insisted that I didn't have to. Apparently this other wolf was some kind of immortal wolf who could make me live forever or restore my life and stuff... Dx After a while the person just didn't stop trying to revive me and other dead members of my group that we just gave up and let them do it. Since the person was very friendly and wasn't just being rude about it we let him get away with it and well I have to admit I kind of liked letting this random stranger come in and change things up in our rp. While the plot of the RP did change thanks to this person it added a little weird spice to the story so I can't say it's always bad when people randomly jump into a rp. Sometimes these random people who jump in help add an interesting twist to the story while others just distract xD

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 01:50:42 am »
This happened to me when I was rping as a possessed warrior cat
<Terrorclaw M> He attempted to pin the kit and twist her paw to an awkward angle.
(Forgot their name) <Random wolf> She growls and picks up terrorclaw in her mouth and throws him to the other side of the cave (Which is like 20 feet away)
<Shadowkit F> Dude really?Thats pp))
<Terrorclaw M> I must agree)
<Random Wolf> Shadowkit I'm helping you run and get help already DX
<Aybess (a wolf watching our rp)> (Dude,it's an rp,go suck a -beep-)
<Random Wolf> Dude -beep- is a bad word!I am leaving!And Shadowkit I was trying to help!


I did the -beep- thing because there are 9 year olds playing this,and I don't want them going their mom/dad saying 'Mom/Dad what does -beep- mean? 030" So yea,that wolf was probably one of them.But anyway,I dun like peeps that are like this,it's simply a form of attention seeking.

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 02:55:06 am »
I find it incredibly rude people do that. :/
I've had it happen to me a few times, and I've seen it to other people too. It's mainly just new players that don't really know how people roleplay here. But..still.

Oh well, people will still keep doing that. Some just don't know better, some are just rude. -.-
Really, all we can do is tell them that they should in OOC to roleplay with someone, especially if people are roleplay fighting.

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Re: Nobody asked for help, so why get involved?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 05:57:31 pm »
If the roleplay's done in a public channel, it is technically free-for-all, but-...

Goodness gracious, it's beyond irritating.

Whilst it's difficult to deduce whether or not a fight has a planned outcome, it's likely best to ask for permission before diving between a warring duo; it could be part of a plot, an arching storyline- anything. You simply don't know! Perhaps they're merely fighting for fun- or wrestling to sort a dispute. Running in and spontaneously cleaving a canine's head off won't make the affair enjoyable for either party.

For example, one of my wolves, Skreel, was essentially tearing apart his brother after an argument had escalated beyond the realms of sanity. The outcome was planned (my friend wanted his character dead!) and lead onto a meticulous plot. However, since we were in different groups, we took the roleplay to local- in a distant corner of Flourite. When we got to the nitty-gritty parts, a Warrior Cat clan spontaneously decided that the very, estranged rock we were stood upon was their 'territory'. When we tried to ignore them, they... Immediately ran to my friend's defense and tore my wolf's throat to shreds- as cats do. We desperately tried to ask them not to intervene and allow us a few further minutes to wrap up the confrontation! Sadly, our pleas fell on deaf ears.

As much as I understand that public roleplay should allow anyone to join in, it's best not to entirely disrupt the fight and, consequently, ruin the roleplay entirely. People can easily watch-- and easily add to the atmosphere with a few, passive emotes! But directly thrusting yourself into the spotlight is terribly inconsiderate-- especially without asking for permission.
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