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What does realistic mean?
« on: January 04, 2014, 03:01:27 pm »
I cannot be the only one to notice this.

So, imagine you have created an amazing map, for a soon-to-be amazing group, with an amazing plot, with amazingly simple standards- Realistic, and can download maps. so you expect to be the next big thing, the largest group ever- because, why not? Your dedicated, put effort, and people have shown interest. So, you run your happy little way to Stone Bridge and start making some movies. After only one or two clips, you get a whisper! They quickly give you a fine RP sample, and you excitedly accept, and ask them to come meet you at Stone Bridge. They whisper back that they are already there and sitting right behind you. Feeling foolish, you turn around to see..... a ridiculously skinny 0,0,0 black wolf with bright cyan blue eyes.


This has happened to me many times, and I'm sick of it. 0,0,0 removes the texture and is unrealistic. Blue eyes are extremely rare in wolves. Now, we have all had our share of these Shadow-Wolves as I call them, but what about other supposedly "realistic" wolves? I have meet solid chocolate brown ones (Your not a lab, your a WOLF), bright ginger/red ones, and ones with odd markings. So, what does "Realism" even mean anymore? You already throw away a lot of realism with the now-common ranks and speaking wolves. At this point, I'm starting to think "realism" just means natural-ish colors, which isn't realistic.

I feel like no one ever has even seen a picture of a wolf. Wolves have lots of fur, they shouldn't be on minimum wait unless they have an illness or something! And simple things like the facial proportions DO matter! I see way to many wolves with default sizes!

I do realize this focus/ was all about wolves, mainly because I never roleplay as felines and have no idea about how good there realism is.


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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 03:17:50 pm »
Even without reading your post, I can honestly say I have NO idea.
People take realistic so many ways.

(Warrior Cats)
Realistic colors, as in you must look like a real cat.
You must also act slightly realistic, AKA: No power playing, no powers, ECT.

(Lions)
Lions can be anything really. XD
I was in one where EVERYTHING was NOTE PERFECT real life, minus the fact we talked.

(Wolves)
You aren't neon and no powers/wings.
That's about it.


Now, after READING your post, I can say this:
People.
Suck.

Most people see 'realistic' and go "OK! RANDOM WOLF AND WE'LL BE GOOD!"
And you taught me something. XD I never knew blue eyed wolves were rare.
They shall all have yellow or green eyes from now on... -Ahem-

Anyways, the problem with realistic is that loads of people don't get HOW realistic.
As I made my mini-list above, that's the cliche 'realistic' standards.
You step out of that, and people don't understand.


So, in other words, you have to state the realism.
Or what's above shall be what you get. x3x



But, the over-all question, I have no freaking idea.
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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 03:34:02 pm »
I'm pretty sure a blue eyed wolf is nonexistant, unless it's a puppy, but a puppy's eyes change over time. " If you see a wolf with blue eyes then he or she is likely a wolf-hybrid and not a full-blooded wolf."

Anyway, realism. I suppose, by most Feral-Heart standards, realism is any color eyes except red, purple, and pink, any markings, as long as they're realistically colored, and any mane of any color. What really gets me, on realism, though, is the backstories. Stories and personality are part of realism too. I hate the unrealistic "was lab tested on" in roleplays that claim to be realistic. I've had my share of lab tested characters and I still have one, but do you really think an animal would be able to escape from a top-security lab with hundreds of scientists? The only reason mine did was because another one was too strong and too violent; they had made him that way on accident. He rampaged and she bought the time to escape. Another backstory that gets me is the "her friend died in a fire," "her parents drowned," etc.. This is because don't you think the pup would have really huge fears of fire or water because her parents were killed? Not to mention the trauma they go through when they see fire/water. People just don't think things clearly through.
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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 03:46:01 pm »
@Ocenwave Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

@Birdi I believe there was one captive breed blue-eyed wolf. And I do see your point with the backstories, I just don't bother with them as much.


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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 04:29:42 pm »
Yes I completely agree. This is the main reason i stopped rping and making packs. You tell people to be realistic and come to you with a black wolf with white markings and blue eyes named Sabrina. And i\I'm all like "..wut."  And this happens when you decide to join a pack and they say that they are realistic. You show up with your realistic wolf and they have purple markings and green hair... what?
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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 05:15:49 pm »


People get snitchy when I tell them that their character is unrealistic and they either have to change or they don't get accepted
Into the role play. I mean, really people. Go look up a picture of a wolf and tell me that your character
is realistic. Back stories bother me deeply, too, however, to as much as appearance.

The role play itself shouldn't be realistic because that would be boring. Semi-realistic is most interesting, because
it's natural, but it isn't "run of the mill."

The "wolves" running around with manes is just a no-no in my opinion. If a wolf has a mane, it's not a wolf. XD
I think canines look cool with the manes, but to say you're realistic with one is just.. Ehh.

Presets are the best option for a realistic characters. You an use more than three colors. :P

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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 12:06:41 am »
Well, my definition of wolf realism is no neon colors, wings, or crazy markings. Strictly realistic however would be exactly life-like. So, I am not sure about your 'shadow wolves.'

There are wolves with blue eyes though.
< http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/blue-eyed-wolf-514779.jpg >

It's not pitch black though.

Then again, Realism could be perceived as non-neon. Which, is in my opinion acceptable. Now if you're looking for an extremely life-like roleplay with absolutely nothing outside of the common wolf category, then I would suggest saying it's 'strictly realistic' and to ask for your approval.


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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 12:09:58 am »
Well, recently I was skimming curiously on movies and I saw one that said about a WC clan, I skimmed the cat and it was unrealistic, and then the movie description said "realistic"

It was at a 0, 0, 0, but thats all I remember.

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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 12:36:21 am »
I agree. I never say `Realistic` I just say `no neon or wings`. But, honestly, realistic is no longer life like. I had a warrior cats rp and I said realistic. I got someone wanting to join and I was like, great. Turned out the cat who wanted to join was ginger with blue eyes and a lions mane. Seroiusly? Ginger ats only have blue eyes and kittens, yet this cat was called Seaeyes. This is quite apart from the fact the Warriors do not know what the sae is!
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Re: What does realistic mean?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 12:59:08 am »
Real realism is hard to come by and honestly I suck at making realistic wolves so normally I get presets as wolves range from a variety of different colors and there are barley any markings that are just shades of different colors instead of a bunch of stripes or spots. I mean a "black" wolf can have silver, gray, dark gray, black and white all in their fur but still be considered black as that is the main color not the shadings.

As for the blue eyes, there has been only one wolf who has kept his blue eyes all throughout life and he was in captivity~ Other than that one wolf, the only other "wolves" with blue eyes all through their life would be wolf hybrids (meaning they are breed with dogs). Sorry I do way to much research on wolves o3o

To people who don't research or look at pictures of a specific animal, they think realistic isn't giant or tiny, realistic "colors" and markings that could be formed in nature (but often times not for that species).

In my opinion to make things more realistic, make a preset or have a very experienced preset maker make one for you as it can have as many shades of colors as your heart requires. Or you can get someone to make a marking pack of just shadings.
Have you ever seen the Mass Marking called Timber Wolf?
If you have, we should have someone make a marking pack that has only the markings look like similar to that! That way more people can make real realistic wolves :3

"Realistic" wolves I often seen are dark in colors and have strange awkward markings o3o and normally have blue eyes. Basically, not all wolves are dark colors T-T, the markings should be shades or just no markings at all. And yellow, brown, green or amber eyes.

Sorry if I rambled on a bit, but there is my opinion~

"A wolf's eyes may be brown, orange, yellow or pale green. They are NEVER blue - that is a common error in drawings and toys. Very young wolf cubs have grey-blue eyes, but they are not the bright blue of some Huskies (Huskies are sometimes used to play wolves in films, which may have led to the myth of blue-eyed wolves), and they change color as the cub ages." - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100209090003AAaJGtf

"When wolf pups are about ten days of age, their eyes first open. Their eyes are a deep murky blue, but by about three weeks of age the pups eyes have turned a bright blue. Around six to eight weeks of age the pups eyes will turn green and finally will reach their adult color which can be anything from pale yellow, to amber or even orange or brown. The orange of this wolves eyes is common." - http://www.all-about-wolves.com/what_wolves_look_like.aspx