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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 10:13:30 pm »
The friendship was good for a few days where I was involved in the conversations. It just abruptly came a day where they left me out of everything and kicked me when I was down. Sure, I stuck around in hopes they'd come to realize how rude they were being but in the end I fled to the lake.

I vented here because I had nowhere else to go. I was lucky enough to stumble across someone who wanted to know why I was alone and lifted my spirits.

@Kuri: Yes, I know I run from you a lot. I don't tend to bond with people who sit next to me in silence. But I think in this case I felt awkward because of the in-character roleplaying I didn't quite understand. No idea.
I'll try to open up and I'm sorry if I've made you feel bad in anyway. Sometimes I run to avoid saying the wrong things because I end up making things a lot worse than they begin.

But anyway, at least it turned up where I and four or five other people chased someone around the map and just had a good time. The biggest turn off of this game is how low it can be and suddenly spike. The roller coaster's just a bit too steep but this is a childhood game and it isn't easy to give up.
I've decided to just stay by the lake. It's away from the Overwatch fans and still gets some people every now and then so it's not too bad. That girl apparently did want to make amends but was showing those signs in the worst way possible, I suppose.

But I think another reason why I vented to the community is simply because... this is what it feels like everyday. The same people talking in Local, the same fandoms screaming out of control, and people so sour that I've become one of them. I don't feel safe here. And yes, there are plenty of people out there who are kind and would help me out but it's a bit strange that I have to run to the forums to find that out, because the forums is less tainted than the game.
I don't mean to sound rude. This game is great but a lot of the people-- it's changed. The population is declining and old users are grown up and moved on or can barely come onto it anymore. It's become dry.

I guess it's just me but I really get awful vibes when I come on. Why do I keep logging on, though? Because of those spikes, pretty much. There's always that one day that's really good but I have to go through a world of boredom or pain to surpass it.

I'm really trying to make the best of this. I want to change this opinion but when the only people who talk are these types of people then I can't help but feel this way. Sure, I'm overreacting, but back in 2012 it was a whole different world. It had it's fair share of rude people but I guess there was more diversity and there was a place for everyone.
Every once and a while I feel like I'm not allowed to be here. I have a few friends to remind me otherwise, luckily, but not all days are sunny.
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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 02:35:43 am »

I'm really trying to make the best of this. I want to change this opinion but when the only people who talk are these types of people then I can't help but feel this way. Sure, I'm overreacting, but back in 2012 it was a whole different world. It had it's fair share of rude people but I guess there was more diversity and there was a place for everyone.
Every once and a while I feel like I'm not allowed to be here. I have a few friends to remind me otherwise, luckily, but not all days are sunny.


Hey man,

I've felt the same way for a very long time about this fair game/community. It's actually why I left for, what, over a year? A year and a half?
Ironic since this community prides itself on inclusion and being welcoming.
I don't mean to sound like a sour sue but to be completely honest with you, this sentiment you're feeling is not at all, nor should it be surprising considering the current state of the community server-side.

This kind of thing happens on a regular basis, even though it shouldn't.


Can't really think of much to do to prevent it other than, vigilance and cutting down toxicity and overly passive aggressiveness before it gets bad.



Back in the sweet ol' Summer of 2013 things were great. I'm sure it was similar to 2012. It's not like that anymore. Apart from the fact that people grew up, this shouldn't be the case.




I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets bad vibes whenever I'd log onto the server. Even when I was on the forums I'd get this overwhelming feeling of ostracization and hostility. That's why I bloody bloomin' left.  Couldn't take the heat anymore. Now I'm back and I hear that the thing I left for is still going on. Absolute bloody madness.
In no dimension is this okay by any means, no matter the community.



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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 11:27:45 am »
It's nice to finally find someone else who agrees. I mean, a lot do but you're at the same level where you've experienced it, left, and came back to find it didn't change. I didn't leave for a year; a few months, but that's even more disappointing. Again, the only reason I've been on again because I still truly believe this can change and there's still that dying side of this game that is great. It's bad when we have to work to find the good side of a community but it's not like anything can be done about it at this point.
Wait a minute,  do know a possible solution to get new members coming in but it's never going to happen. No offense to the administrators because there's a valid reason behind it, I know, but a game lingering around less than 300 people a day when it used to be 800 is a very significant drop. Opening the registration completely would open the doors for yes, multiple accounts of people, sadly, but possibly a swarm of new members which we desperately need at this point.

Because I'm pretty sure people will get sick of me spamming about taking people's femurs. I shouldn't be the only one talking by the lake, and it shouldn't be the same thing every day by the main part of the Grounds. There's other maps, yes, but the only one where I know there are people is Ficho Tunnels and those are mostly ones of different languages. All the others maps are for roleplaying.

Okay, but I did notice one thing that has changed in the months I left: there's been a significant drop in roleplayers. I used to linger around the lake and roleplay when I felt like it and others around me would too, whether directly or indirectly. There was always some roleplay every day, even if it was short. Most of the time it was with wolves and cats, respectively, and they'd just be writing to pass the time and hope to fish up some others to mingle with. I get that I've only been back for a few days, but I've only seen one roleplay-- at 6 AM.
I have to leave for school around that time so twenty minutes of gameplay I want to see is very short.
But my point is, nobody roleplays anymore. It's all morphed to groups but groups are a struggle for me. I can only handle a few people at once. Also, most group roleplays are wolf and warrior cat or pride roleplays which are things I'm not into anymore. That doesn't mean I don't like them because I loved watching them by the lake, but that's just not my style. But now, hardly anymore roleplays by the lake and usually scare them off because I keep grabbing capri sun and popcorn (gross combo) everytime somebody hints towards a roleplay. They usually run away lmao.

Basically, it's hard to find enjoyable aspect now. It's not anyone's fault. Time changes things, yes, but man-- can't help but ask why. I had left for a few months before the update occured, and game back when it was set in place. I don't know what the community was like when it was nearing that, but I do know it was starting to shrivel though there was still diversity in conversation and open roleplays galore. I don't know if some people couldn't figure out how to install the update or just grew up and got bored of the game. Either or, the community I used to know crashed. There's a few left but they're hard to find and overshadowed by the same people screaming the same thing about the same fandoms over and over.
I have my reasons for being so salty.

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 06:40:30 pm »
So all this text actually means...  "People uninspired, need fresh faces".  Well yeah..
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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 07:19:25 pm »
I'm really not the best with words, so if this is a bit repetitive and boring I'm sorry, I just want to help.

I'm not going to say I can relate to you with everything, as my experience have been different from yours, but I definitely feel the pain that you're feeling.
I'm the type of person that feeds off of attention, if I don't get attention, I become salty and start attacking most if not everyone around me. Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of friends that I know care for me and care about my well being, but when I see them directly talking to someone else and instantly cut me out of the conversation, I just get really salty and annoyed. Most times I will probably message them how I feel, plenty of times it's worked, and I'll get the spotlight put back onto me, but recently that just hasn't been happening.
I've started to take myself away from all of my FeralHeart friends, and just stay with me 2 best friends and my girlfriend, yes, this is probably the best for me, but I get way less attention and I feel as if I come off more salty and aggressive to random strangers.

I've read through every single comment on this thread, and I guess it's not only me that feels this way. I'm not that much of an emotional type when it comes to speaking to people who need help, but if you ever need someone to talk to then you can message me anytime. I'm on the FH Forums basically 24/7, and if I don't respond in-game or via PM, then you can add me on Discord.

I'm pretty sure everyone, and I mean everyone, has gone through this type of feeling, just some more than others. I know this is really cheesy to say, but it will get better. You'll soon find people you really connect with, heck, it's taken me multiple years to find my best friends.

If you ever want to talk feel free to message me.

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 08:41:02 pm »
They're not uninspired. There just one track minded.

Thank you, Lvgic. I'll hardly ever approach anyone unless they're speaking first but I'll keep you the others in mind if I need a helping hand. But yeah, I know myself as the Salt Shaker. That's my role on my Discord group, for God's sake. I know I'm going to get mad but if it's from a level that others could get upset from then it's worth mentioning. My best friend and I met on this game and saw it sort of crawl into fetal position and slowly whither away. It's upsetting to the both of us and she tries her best to help me, as do I but sometimes she's not around. She was mad about the about and I understood her, but I still wanted to be apart of the game.

It's just when the insides of it are all... flattened out and burned to exhaustion then it leads to a very dry game. Most of the time I do something else while playing. Yes, of course there are rounded people but they're the quietest voice. 'Sides, if you're not into the latest fandoms then ya might as well leave. //legit the vibes I get

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 10:06:17 pm »
They're not uninspired. There just one track minded.

Thank you, Lvgic. I'll hardly ever approach anyone unless they're speaking first but I'll keep you the others in mind if I need a helping hand. But yeah, I know myself as the Salt Shaker. That's my role on my Discord group, for God's sake. I know I'm going to get mad but if it's from a level that others could get upset from then it's worth mentioning. My best friend and I met on this game and saw it sort of crawl into fetal position and slowly whither away. It's upsetting to the both of us and she tries her best to help me, as do I but sometimes she's not around. She was mad about the about and I understood her, but I still wanted to be apart of the game.

It's just when the insides of it are all... flattened out and burned to exhaustion then it leads to a very dry game. Most of the time I do something else while playing. Yes, of course there are rounded people but they're the quietest voice. 'Sides, if you're not into the latest fandoms then ya might as well leave. //legit the vibes I get

I completely agree with your statement on the fandoms. The most I see are Overwatch, and heck, I've only played it around 3 times so I'm basically clueless (if I'm being honest, I don't see what the big hype about it is, it's literally like COD just with characters). But yeah, most people that tend to be the most caring and affectionate towards friends are the quiet ones, from what I've learned, I guess it just takes time, even I'm trying to still find some friends that I can hang around with on FH since I don't Roleplay anymore.

I wish you the best of luck with all your problems. I hate to see people go through stuff like this, if you ever need to vent in a more private matter, as I said, you can message me, think of it as a mini-councilor. Hopefully, things start to brighten up for the both of us sometime soon.

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2017, 12:19:11 am »
I believe I can relate to you on part of this. I've played this game for about... maybe... 6 years? When I checked my old account registration date it was back in 2011, and I can agree with you the community here is... Well it almost gives a 'fake Welcome.' I can't say that I entirely hate the community because I've made some very good friends on here... But they saw the same thing that I did and they left the game because of it - But I stayed because I just couldn't leave, really. I did take a break from the game for about a half a year and then finally decided to change my username and come back - but the reason for that was because a lot of people I did befriend... Didn't turn out to be good friends at all. They back-stabbed me and emotionally abused me. Heck even manipulated my thoughts. So now I have so much trouble being outgoing with people on here because I'm always afraid of the same things happening over and over to me; I don't want history to repeat itself, I just want loyal, caring friends. I also have bad social anxiety so I get attacks very, very quickly. I always assume somebody is thinking bad about me or is going to judge me in some way. Due to having that happen, I've turned practically into an introvert and only spoken when I felt a true need to. The people that did befriend me were people that actually were kind enough to approach me and listen to my issues and actually give me advice... Some others just were plain aggressive towards me and would not believe me if I tried to apologize for anything I did to them in the past. I'm a lot smarter now and I know my rights from wrongs, but at the same time I feel like people are staring at me with negative thoughts in their heads. It's hard for me to trust people, and sometimes I tend to take a lot of what people say harder than someone normally would. I'd break down and log off. I don't know... I've been called weak for being cursed with anxiety but heck, what can I do about it? It's just there, eating at me. It's hard for me to act like a normal person.

So, yeah, this is my share on this... Even though my experience probably is different.

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2017, 02:32:22 am »
They're not uninspired. There just one track minded.

Thank you, Lvgic. I'll hardly ever approach anyone unless they're speaking first but I'll keep you the others in mind if I need a helping hand. But yeah, I know myself as the Salt Shaker. That's my role on my Discord group, for God's sake. I know I'm going to get mad but if it's from a level that others could get upset from then it's worth mentioning. My best friend and I met on this game and saw it sort of crawl into fetal position and slowly whither away. It's upsetting to the both of us and she tries her best to help me, as do I but sometimes she's not around. She was mad about the about and I understood her, but I still wanted to be apart of the game.

It's just when the insides of it are all... flattened out and burned to exhaustion then it leads to a very dry game. Most of the time I do something else while playing. Yes, of course there are rounded people but they're the quietest voice. 'Sides, if you're not into the latest fandoms then ya might as well leave. //legit the vibes I get

I completely agree with your statement on the fandoms. The most I see are Overwatch, and heck, I've only played it around 3 times so I'm basically clueless (if I'm being honest, I don't see what the big hype about it is, it's literally like COD just with characters). But yeah, most people that tend to be the most caring and affectionate towards friends are the quiet ones, from what I've learned, I guess it just takes time, even I'm trying to still find some friends that I can hang around with on FH since I don't Roleplay anymore.

I wish you the best of luck with all your problems. I hate to see people go through stuff like this, if you ever need to vent in a more private matter, as I said, you can message me, think of it as a mini-councilor. Hopefully, things start to brighten up for the both of us sometime soon.
It's a rip off of Team Fortress 2 with more characters and controversy. People can like it but honestly, it's turning into Five Nights at Freddy's, My Little Pony, and Sonic the Hedgehog kind of toxic. It's more prominent on Feral Heart than anything, I feel, because the internet hardly mentions Overwatch over the millions of look alikes.
Now I get it. I like Happy Tree Friends, a low grade animated YouTube series with flat characters and the most basic plot possible. I think of it as much more and morphed it into something different in my mind, but besides the point, I don't chant my theories and my love for it everywhere I go. Is it fine to do that when it turns up? Of course! Everyday? WHY? It makes me want to rip my hair out, especially when it's things I don't agree with being constantly shoved down my throat.

I believe I can relate to you on part of this. I've played this game for about... maybe... 6 years? When I checked my old account registration date it was back in 2011, and I can agree with you the community here is... Well it almost gives a 'fake Welcome.' I can't say that I entirely hate the community because I've made some very good friends on here... But they saw the same thing that I did and they left the game because of it - But I stayed because I just couldn't leave, really. I did take a break from the game for about a half a year and then finally decided to change my username and come back - but the reason for that was because a lot of people I did befriend... Didn't turn out to be good friends at all. They back-stabbed me and emotionally abused me. Heck even manipulated my thoughts. So now I have so much trouble being outgoing with people on here because I'm always afraid of the same things happening over and over to me; I don't want history to repeat itself, I just want loyal, caring friends. I also have bad social anxiety so I get attacks very, very quickly. I always assume somebody is thinking bad about me or is going to judge me in some way. Due to having that happen, I've turned practically into an introvert and only spoken when I felt a true need to. The people that did befriend me were people that actually were kind enough to approach me and listen to my issues and actually give me advice... Some others just were plain aggressive towards me and would not believe me if I tried to apologize for anything I did to them in the past. I'm a lot smarter now and I know my rights from wrongs, but at the same time I feel like people are staring at me with negative thoughts in their heads. It's hard for me to trust people, and sometimes I tend to take a lot of what people say harder than someone normally would. I'd break down and log off. I don't know... I've been called weak for being cursed with anxiety but heck, what can I do about it? It's just there, eating at me. It's hard for me to act like a normal person.

So, yeah, this is my share on this... Even though my experience probably is different.[/color]
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I'm sorry to hear that. I've had friends back stab me both over the internet and in real life, and hell I've done the same. I've been mean to people and I regret it. That's why I'm trying to change; turn over a new leaf and such and such. I get there's going to be people like me out there, who are rude and edgy and such-- but when it seems makes up 80% of the population then it's a problem.
The same game that made me learn to roleplay/write made me quit roleplaying.
The game I loved to make groups on made me fear joining any group.
The game that made me eager to come onto it everyday is now regurgitating the same things over and over.

Yes, I still like this game because I'm venturing off in hopes to find the better side of it. It's practically silent, but it's there.

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Re: From 100 to 0 (in no time flat)
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 02:53:59 am »
It's nice to finally find someone else who agrees. I mean, a lot do but you're at the same level where you've experienced it, left, and came back to find it didn't change. I didn't leave for a year; a few months, but that's even more disappointing. Again, the only reason I've been on again because I still truly believe this can change and there's still that dying side of this game that is great. It's bad when we have to work to find the good side of a community but it's not like anything can be done about it at this point.

But is it really that bad?
From the sounds of it, it's like you want to find the good in the community, but don't really wish to put in anymore effort than what you already have. To be frankly honest, this, seems like something from your perspective ( of course ), while you think one way, someone else is bound to see it differently.
When I left, from this community, yes, it was something I chose and yes, I planned on coming back and everything... But I also wanted to give back to said community, for all the things it has done for me.... While, at the same time, I left to give myself an emotional and mental break. I was practically addicted. It got to the point where I was doing the same old thing, day in and day out, not really changing my routine, seeing the same thing over and over...
But I chose, to leave, hoping that I can do things that I enjoy doing as well as seeing if my thoughts about the game or the community in general has changed. And it has..
Now, it's easy to pick out the negatives / bad things in something.. but it can be difficult trying to accept the good because you're already do keened and focused on the negatives.

Whether you wish to agree, or disagree, that's entirely up to you.
When I left, the community ( as anything else in life ) was kinda toxic. I won't lie there. There was fandoms galore ( even after the update ), people complaining about said update ( specifically the maps ) and practically nej one liked what you did. None. Even on the forums. You had a fair share of backstabbers, changes.. the works. But when I came back, I saw that the community , even the forums , has changed.
Now, you can say that I clearly overlooked something, but nej. I honestly felt that the community has gotten better in a way.
Sure you have your fair share of toxicity but that's if you want to put yourself through that entirely. People were starting to come around to the whole update, fandoms weren't as bad and the roleplays are actually pretty good. Granted, it depends on when and where you happen to be during that session you're on, but there are numerous Roleplayers still happening. Especially in the Tunnels. You just gotta look.
But yeah, I saw change and I saw how the activity picked up.. sure, it wasn't much but it was still something and better than nothing.


Wait a minute,  do know a possible solution to get new members coming in but it's never going to happen. No offense to the administrators because there's a valid reason behind it, I know, but a game lingering around less than 300 people a day when it used to be 800 is a very significant drop. Opening the registration completely would open the doors for yes, multiple accounts of people, sadly, but possibly a swarm of new members which we desperately need at this point.

I agree, opening the doors to new players can be a nice pick up. Registration is surprisingly opened more than it used to be...
And while this idea is good and all, you gotta think about the outcome down the road..
The maps are relatively smaller than the originals ( At least that's what I heard ), and the reason why was so it can help players not lag as much... as well as it not being so empty at the same time.. Granted, there's a download I believe that has the old maps for players to try.. but at the same time.. All these people in all theses maps? It's not necessarily and instantly, going to be a good thing.

Not saying it can never happen because the server can only handle but so many people at once... Maybe when there's some more improvement, yeah. But you gotta remember, new faces can equal more and new problems and more and new issues to arise and people complaining about certain things than what's happening now.
It's like, the issues you feel like you're going through, might be amplified and it won't be just you that's affected by it, but a majority of players and it might get to the point where people just stop coming on because it might not be worth it anymore.. might not be the Feral - Heart that they remembered, etc.



Because I'm pretty sure people will get sick of me spamming about taking people's femurs. I shouldn't be the only one talking by the lake, and it shouldn't be the same thing every day by the main part of the Grounds. There's other maps, yes, but the only one where I know there are people is Ficho Tunnels and those are mostly ones of different languages. All the others maps are for roleplaying.

Again, perspectives and how you see it.
Who knows, it might not actually be the same thing everyday.. and you're not the only one that goes and hangs out by the lake as well.
And while you think spamming about stealing femurs may be annoying, it might be amusing to some other people. It might be something they look forward to when it comes to something random being said in the chat.

You don't know, y'know?
And hej, at least it isn't dead quiet, right?


Okay, but I did notice one thing that has changed in the months I left: there's been a significant drop in roleplayers. I used to linger around the lake and roleplay when I felt like it and others around me would too, whether directly or indirectly. There was always some roleplay every day, even if it was short. Most of the time it was with wolves and cats, respectively, and they'd just be writing to pass the time and hope to fish up some others to mingle with. I get that I've only been back for a few days, but I've only seen one roleplay-- at 6 AM.
I have to leave for school around that time so twenty minutes of gameplay I want to see is very short.
But my point is, nobody roleplays anymore. It's all morphed to groups but groups are a struggle for me. I can only handle a few people at once. Also, most group roleplays are wolf and warrior cat or pride roleplays which are things I'm not into anymore. That doesn't mean I don't like them because I loved watching them by the lake, but that's just not my style. But now, hardly anymore roleplays by the lake and usually scare them off because I keep grabbing capri sun and popcorn (gross combo) everytime somebody hints towards a roleplay. They usually run away lmao.

Again, really depends on the timezones.
Depending on the time of day and the day of the week you'll get a huge wave of roleplayers ... and other days you'll get none, and they don't even have to be in a group on top of that.
Sometimes they'll be scattered across the map because any map can be a roleplay spot whether it was 'designed' that way or not.

And since you're only on for about 2O minutes, 6AM, that can be late in the night for other people. Lol.


Basically, it's hard to find enjoyable aspect now. It's not anyone's fault. Time changes things, yes, but man-- can't help but ask why. I had left for a few months before the update occured, and game back when it was set in place. I don't know what the community was like when it was nearing that, but I do know it was starting to shrivel though there was still diversity in conversation and open roleplays galore. I don't know if some people couldn't figure out how to install the update or just grew up and got bored of the game. Either or, the community I used to know crashed. There's a few left but they're hard to find and overshadowed by the same people screaming the same thing about the same fandoms over and over.
I have my reasons for being so salty.


What you came back to all depends on how you viewed it as.
You asked why? But that's like saying, 'Why does it have to change?'
Whether it be good or bad, time keeps going and waits for nej one. As we get older we tend to mature in our own way, good or bad.
We have different outlooks and we truly can't help that.

Whether you outlook is a good or bad one, you're the one that's judging it all ( Not saying this in a negative manner ).

But again, whatever happens from here on out, I wish you the greatest luck regardless.
If you feel like you're doing too much or trying to fool yourself into thinking something is there, then it's not worth it if it's making you more and more miserable.
Sometimes it takes years to be able to view a point or move away from something. You coming back, hoping to see change ( whether it be in your face or not ), may not be all that worth it if it's truly going to make ya feel sour inside.

Sorry if I'm rambling a bit. Heh, But everyone is different and at least you got to say what you needed to. Nice to also see people extending their paws and reaching out to you and sharing their stories.

Oh and for the whole fandom thing, can you really blame someone for talking about something they enjoy? It may seem like a nuisance to you, but to someone else, it's a convo starter and it can be good just finding someone else to express their love to. Yeah, it can be annoying when it's everywhere in local, but they can't help that they're enjoying themselves. We can't all be satisfied.
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Keep on traveling across this road called 'Life.'

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