Feral Heart
Game & Forum Discussion => Game Discussion => Topic started by: slycan on May 11, 2011, 12:19:31 am
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[May 31]
Everyone give Raksha huggles and kisses now, we got a report section!
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[May 11th ]
For the last 3 months, there has been a fair of unacceptable behavior within our community. This has been said before a dozen times as this is the internet and there are and always will be people like this. The 'staff' knows this, the community knows this, and the causers know this.
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As of lately alot of members have brought up these facts to attention via either PM or IM:
A- People don't know the rules in-game, the rules should pop up in-game.
* Sure, but it's kinda like giving a child a picture book yet telling them to read the words first. If they don't take the time to understand what they are getting into they have whats coming at them.*
B- There aren't any/enough (active) mods in-game online for hours at a time.
* This can be said, but realize that these people have lives to - and I could only imagine how tough it is to pick new trustworthy & professional ones to support the game. This does indeed cause hours of stacking unsolved drama to rise though.*
C- The famous "Just use the block button"
Now this is one thing I'm guilty of telling people to do alot, and although it WORKS 100% - this doesn't stop blocked person from further violations of rules, especially when it comes from embarrassing/harassing your character further ( even if you can't see them). Read B.
D- I can't play this game anymore, I quit.
*Well that's nice of you to give up on the suppose '-Removed by moderator- community' that you YOURSELF been part of so long. And if you just joined, then just quietly leave because you're not helping us much at all make it better.( or running my mouth around claiming that another game will be ' teh better erp derp' when it isn't even released yet .) But to be fair, from the way things are going I've thought of going into hiding myself, but instead I wanna try and improve it and make it better instead of -Removed by moderator- about it.. (: *
E - Dimensions
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1- As Gem said, this will make it even HARDER for in-game mods, there is not enough of them and none of them can be on all the dims at once. This is basically giving trouble makers more power to hide from mods.
2- "They aren't going to be added." ~ Kovu , the maker of the game
3- Kinda forces you to learn how to make a map and be creative like the game is about, durhur.
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Solutions then?
Here's a list we have gathered so far
~ Chat Limit ( The chat detects spam and automaticaly prevents the spammer from typing for 2 mins.)
~ Rule Quiz ( a test for the in-game rules before signing up, required to pass before making an account.)
~ Report Section ( ~ Done ~)
~ Make Maps ( Roleplaying, Calmer than default maps, and people will love you for your creativity)
~ Rules ( in-game that pop up for every new account/ when you first log in)
~ Not -Removed by moderator-. Be happy. And kick back-- The game is out for our own enjoyment ( *claps* ilu Hakuri )
~ Chat Logs ( an optional feature for members that logs texts from the chat and saves. Easy for reporting or back-tracking people you've met.)
~ Map Maker/Owner Control ( options for the maper maker to Kick, Ban, etc - for there own maps since mods can't be in every single user made map.)
~ Time Shifts(Since staff live across the world so maybe fill them online according to time zone.)
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With this said, please feel free to share how you feel about this and perhaps even some more ideas instead of blah-blah-cry wall text rants. No, this thread isn't for your to rant. It's for solutions for this community, for the community that YOU are part of ( and some of you tend to forget your part of it, while your going around calling FH community idiots, trolls, retards , noobs, and what ever else - then what the hell does that make you?)
Thanks for reading ^_^
~Sly
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So here is my question; Would it be unethical to have a place were the members of this community can post reports of people violating the rules. This is strictly rhetorical.
Hmmm... I think it would be good as long as no one could view the report apart from the person who posted it, and the moderators. I don't think its unethical unless everyone can see it, that would just be public humiliation.
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Eh, you guys can rage at me for saying this, but...
This community does need some shaping up a bit in my opinion. I know that this is the internet and you can't stop these people because we can't go around banning every single person who does it, that's just not right and we know that they're gonna keep coming back.
The ingame mods thing... yes, this is gonna be a little tricky. The ingame mods do have lives outside of the internet and they can't be on 24/7. I'm not sure some people understand that.. and finding some trustworthy people could prove to be an issue itself. Yes, the block button is very handy indeed but that only blocks the specific person from you. Not everyone else.
And this is where all the rants about dims come in, guys, dims would make this issue so much harder to deal with. (Offtopic, just though I'd say that.)
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Solutions? Hmm.. Maybe something like ingame restrictions? I've seen the Buttswing abused various times, maybe there should be a limit to how often you could use it each login? I know that to surpass this people could always log out then log back in again, but this is somewhat of a good temporary solution I suppose. ._.
And I agree with Teal, it wouldn't be unethical unless everyone could view it. No one should be able to view reports except the poster and the mods.
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Is it odd that just this morning, after complaining to my wall about this stuff, I thought about doing something like this as well? Helpful, Sly. I just hope it gets through the thick heads of some of our community members. :/ There's a lot that needs fixing, in my opinion, and working together would solve a lot.
Although we've quite a few members who lack humor and a helpfulness trait. Oh well, work with who and what we have, mhm? :3
Hm, well. What else to say.
Actually I've a LOT to say and ANYONE who knows me well enough knows exactly what I see wrong with this community. I know how to fix a lot of these things, but just because of how strongly I tend to come off with my opinions, people tend to back away, and the only way I can ever get things done is by BEING so harsh. I've got friends in staff as well, and I know my opinions would hurt them.
I just wish they'd realize that I've two sides to me.
Professional side.
Friendship side. :/
I'll consider making a much large post soon, depending on how this thread goes. If I do voice it, be aware that I will come off strongly and I will not hold back how I feel.
Edit: So I decided to put a BIT of information here. Not my full blown out rant.
1. The forum. I don't care how lazy, tired, or whatever excuse you have. It took me a DAY to do EVERY single board on my fan forum over at Impressive Hearts. I manage my life and dealing with at least four to five forums a day, not all administrated by me, but when I'm asked to do a job, I do it right the first time. Theses boards look half-assed and lazy. It would take maybe an hour, MAYBE at that, to fix these properly, give them more proper titles, proper grammar, make it look like a PROFESSIONAL forum. Not some kids fan site. Hell, my FAN forum looks more professional then this. :/ No offense to whoever did it, and I love my friends on the staff, but would it honestly kill to take.. maybe ten minutes each day for seven days, IF that, to fix these boards and give the forum its RIGHTFUL professional appearance that it RIGHTFULLY deserves? Look at the Aro'kai forum. It's a proboards forum. I think it took them.. a week or so to do that. Look at it. It's beautiful. Why does this forum give me a headache to look at. No wonder new members get mixed up in areas and post in the wrong sections. Sure they would anyway, but not as often as I've seen here. =|
2. It's hard not to point fingers, but I have to ask. What's up with two of the administrators on here suddenly having like, 17236128931212 karma and posts? I know they're staff and TO AN EXTENT they deserve the privilege of messing around with their own accounts and what not, however, act professional for the good lord in me. >___>
3. Noooow, I'm not one to be all.. 'hey, do this, do that' but sometimes someone has to be a bossy ass where their nose don't belong to see something done in a community they love. Harsh. Love.
I'm NOT SAYING that any staff should be fired. But; why aren't staff applications ever opened? Why do I only see friends being hired? I'm guilty of it on my own forums, but I also gave others I didn't know well a chance, why? Because there are others out in this forum that have potential to do great for the forum and I feel they're COMPLETELY tossed aside because they're A) Not friends B) The administrators don't like them. Don't say I'm wrong or I'm bashing, hear me out here now. :/ I've observed a lot in the past.. months, now, year maybe, of this game being made and how the hierarchy works here. People are lucky I'm not saying more. Just consider that, you don't even have to answer it.
4. Why are the administrators so seemingly HARD TO CONTACT? I know they've all MSN's, yet they're either appearing offline or refuse to talk to people. NOOOOT quite sure about this, I don't have that strong of an argument for it, but I feel the staff should be within easy reach, not so hard to find. :/
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6. This one is aimed at the actually community itself, partially the staff. Why all the -Removed by moderator- and ranting and -Removed by moderator-? I see a whole lot of stuff going down, but it's nothing but whining and people being too damn stubborn to actually act upon anything, it's super frustrating. 8D! Impressive Title's early community was way better, I mean no offense to you guys, but it's so damn pathetic. :/
What can we do to make the community better? Things like this.
My post isn't bashing or aiming to make anyone look stupid or otherwise. I'm not saying the staff do a bad job. They do their jobs as they are told, I assume, and life goes on. But one must listen to others and attempt to think on an outsiders view. See it from another point of view, what I give is my point of view. My judgement has not let me down before, and I know it isn't letting me down now. What I've said is only a small portion of things that I feel really need to change, and trust me, this isn't me being mean. If I was being mean, I would've said a HELLUVA lot more. In fact I deleted at least half of the things I said before editing this post. (;
The start to a better community is through good staff examples as well. So I guess this is MAINLY aimed at the staff. Show the community how to behave, what to do, and give them a better place to post in for the love of god.
Much peace and love, Kah. <3
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To be honest, this is like beating a dead dog---
I've seen so many threads like this.
I don't think any of the people who abuse the rules have been on the forums, nor are looking at these.
This is a relatively new game. As it gets older, people will lose interest and their will be less of these, ... weirdo people.. (Whatever you want to call them.)
When Aro'kai comes out, I think most of these people will flee to go play the new game.
Keep in mind there isn't as many games that are animals and 3D and online. <-- = less of a problem.
/was going to say something else, but can't remember./
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Edited my post.
& The only beating of a dead horse going on here are the constant wave of people who complain but don't DO anything. They sit on their -Removed by moderator-, this thread is giving answers, solutions, final ideas and helping bringing members together for a better place.
The community won't improve unless the community gets it's lazy ass up and does something for itself.
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To put it simply,
I really could care less.
It isn't to the point that further action is needed in my opinion. Once more maps are implemented
into the game and people disperse (or stay in FP and BI to troll to their hearts' content) roleplay will be easier and rude people concentrated in other areas.
'Till then, I vote we simply: Not -Removed by moderator-. Be happy. And kick back-- The game is out for our own enjoyment.
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As nice of a fantasy thought that is, Haruki, does sitting on ones ass to wait out a war 'settle things down?' No. Sure in the end things have been done and there's a 'winner' or final solution, HOWEVER if you did that, the forums and game could end up.. ick. Don't. Sit. On. Ass. Bad idea. give a -Removed by moderator- if this crashes and burns. But I do care about this community, at least, to an extent anyway. If you all care enough to -Removed by moderator-, care enough to try helping out. It isn't impossible to get new members to work with you. I've - HOLY -Removed by moderator- GUYS - done. It. Before. And remember we were ALL new members, noobs/newbs, at once. So get over yourselves and HELP each other you stubborn - censorship 8D -'s. >____>
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I do agree. The community has been bad lately.
I do know that It was better with the Community, but seeing there are now canine meshes into the game, U sure do know other 'RPers' coming from a game with horrible manners, Rping and community are to come seeing they see something they like over here. I mostly think the community is just being more Un-community (Hurr hurr good choice of words, no?) Seeing All there is to do on FH right now are the simple create and Rp. Some/most people I see that come now a days Dont want to RP, but they just sit around and wonder what to do. BOOM! Troll, harasser, Be arrogant, Spam, Movie Spam, etc etc. When I get bored, Yes I do troll a Tiny bit. But not enough to make someone feel complete anger or hatred tords one another, Unlike other people do.
So, Maybe if people had more to do, But in the mean time. Seeing I know FeralHeart just got born and will develop threw out. The Solution I'm not really sure on, Maybe a in-game message that pops up when they log in showing them the In-game rules, if that is needed. As for another mini-solution, maybe lets say u cant press enter every 1- 2 seconds. I seen the spam go as
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In Gen chat.
and Easy Kah.
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I couldn't understand half of what you said, but I take it you don't speak English. And respectfully do not tell me to take it easy, I'm voicing my thoughts. Do you see me telling you to take it easy? No, so kindly, with respect, back off. <3 I stand by my opinion
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My my, I do speak English if you do 'with the respect' want to know that. I said Take it easy seeing how much you where throwing your curse words out, seeing we cant even do that in the game, without someone, such as a mod, telling us to chill. You think I am going to back off, your nuts. I stand my opinion just as you do.
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If you wanted me to lower my cursing, you could have kindly asked such as 'Can you please stop cursing so much? :3' Don't ever tell me to chill or calm down, and don't call me nuts darlin'. LOL Such thick heads in this community. :'c Kenta, if you want to continue this, PM me, as this thread was not made for our personal little 'arguement' here. ^^<3 ~ Many thanks, dear. ;P I'd like to see more thoughts on this, however I don't think I will, not now anyway. I'm talking with Sly about it all. Feels good to get truth off of ones chest, aye? <3
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and then they got back on topic and everything was good >_>
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GIRLS GIRLS, YOU BOTH KNOW IM PRETTY, so kiss and make up now >:I
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Everyone needs to take a deep breath me thinks >.>
Personally I think taking the time, which I know it takes a lot of time, to find some new in-game mods would help A LOT.
Personally I got so tired of the trolls, the rude people, mate beggers, etc. etc. that I NEVER go into the public maps anymore and I think it's a shame that it's come down to that because they are a ton of fun people out there that I'll never get to meet or rp with because of it.
Yes I agree that the block button can be your very best friend at time but it doesn't stop the person from being ... well you know. Those people always act different when a mod is around sadly so they often don't get "caught in the act"
And I agree 100% with Teal on the public forum thing. If others could see it apart from the poster and the moderator than it would be nothing but public humiliation and that does nobody any good.
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LOL<3 Yes Sly. :] & Yes you are Wudiin<3 And no I'm not kissing her. D8! k illshup now. (:
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Why do I only see friends being hired?
The recent mods who have been hired aren't friends as far as I can see. Just adding that there.
And let me know if I'm wrong, but wasn't this thread supposed to be about:
So here is my question; Would it be unethical to have a place were the members of this community can post reports of people violating the rules. Would this scare people from wrong doing knowing they can be caught by the mods AND public eye for awareness/blocking. OR would this cause more uneeded 'drama' as the term is thrown around. This is strictly rhetorical.
A- People don't know the rules in-game, the rules should pop up in-game.
B- There are any/enough (active) mods in-game online for hours at a time.
B- There are any/enough (active) mods in-game online for hours at a time.
C- The famous "Just use the block button"
D- I can't play this game anymore, I quit.
F - Dimensions
If you have a problem with how the forum is, go make your own thread in the forum section lol.
/continues to lurk
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I think the people complaining on the forums are a symptom of the bigger issue that lies ingame. .. Most of the "complainers" I've talked to (Hell, I'm one of them to an extent) are nice, intelligent people who are just reallyreallyreally frustrated. With the fixing of behavioural problems ingame the forum will follow suit and realign itself to become a more healthy community (or so I hope). Slycan I think all of your ideas are a good start to keeping people more respectful in-game, especially the pop-up of rules for the non-forum goers. Or perhaps when they first sign up they have to answer a question about the rules correctly to show they've read it? kinda like a captcha code? I defineately think a reporting system for abusers should be established and it should be kept between the moderators, the reported, and to an extent the reporters when asked to show evidence of the abuse. I've also observed that with virtual pets communities like Aywas (which is highly sucessful) they have a potential sign-upper write a little about themselves and why they want to join, which is then submitted to be considered by staff who then decide whether or not they can join- is there any way a system like that could work for FH if you guys obtain enough staff? Or is it too late to implement such a system since most of the offenders are already among FH? this is just a thought, it probably can't be used but I'm throwin' it out there :3
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I must say, the FH community does need some fixing up. I have to agree with Kahara here, that if we all worked together to try and fix it, it can happen. As for the users that complain 24/7, I must say, we can all be glad that they quit. It's always better if there's one less complainer. (Not trying to start anything. ^^;) But not good if they all leave for the same reason, you know? Which is: FH community. Yes, the mods ingame do their best to make the game better, and they do have lives outside the internet. I see them around often. But really, sometimes I don't get it when people I've never seen on the forum before and only ingame say they never see a mod anywhere. o.o I mean, do they even know the mods? xD But anyway, solutions. Perhaps it could be fixed if the rules were put ingame. Like already mentioned in the first post. :3 I believe that doing that little thing can make a HUGE difference. Even if we all think that trolls run around on FH, they can still read, and don't want to be banned. ;)
-Just my little opinion. (NOTE: I had this written when the topic was created, but was unable to post. So if it sounds off, that's why. D:)
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I should warn you, that this was typed on a phone and most liekly will have many incorrectly spelled words.
To my understanding, when people say there's no mods ingame, they mean something different. Methinks they mean they don't see mods -Removed by moderator- and whatnot about rules. But all us forum-goers know that the mods would never do that. <3 Heck, I've talked to people in-game who never even knew FH had a forum. *le gasp* ... I mean, have they really somehow managed to look at every single map in-game from every single place all at the same time? Methinks not. So, they do not KNOW that there is indeed not a single mod in any of the maps online, and actually paying attention, at any given time. Justbecause they're not yelling or smething at somebody doesnt mean they're not there. But this thread is more on the topic of rule following, so I suppose I should touch on that as well. o.o -totally not stating the obvious- Yes, I do think that rules should pop up in-game sometimes. How that would be set up, however, I have, frankly, no idea. Hurr. >~< Perhaps they could show up on the loading screens sometimes. Yes, I think the forum could be a bit neater. Yes, I think that peeople should do something instead of -Removed by moderator- and moaning about other people or problems. And, yes, I am aware that most people have lives, and therefore cannot spend hours on end in-game, modding about in their modnyess glory.
On another note, the other day I sat around on/in BI(lulz) and FP, curious as to what them "weirdo" peoples (you know who Im talking about) did in their spare time. And I have learned, that, not first the first tiime... There's just some things you can never unsee, man. D:
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erhm- perhaps we can stop scolding the "complainers" and move on? I think it will just make people more angry and start fights that aren't necessary, seeing that complaining is justified to a degree and we are all guilty of it at some point. Being admonishing of others who we (being human afterall) aren't much better than makes for a less kind community than we are aiming for.
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I agree with having the rules in game becayse only 2347 of 40984 has read the rules.
I have seen many people breaking rules.
And that is not much and not everyone follows the rules: Bad language, rape, spam etc.
And yes dims would be a problem for in game mods, but i dont often see a mod in game to take care of people who doesn't follow the rules.
And yeah as The Hero Of Canton said the block button can be your best friend but it doesn't stop the person.
They dont often get caught of what they do...
And yes i agree with Teal.
"I can't play this game anymore, I quit." Quit if you want but you will miss the fun ^^
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this game is so young and excusably being developed more. . . giving up on it seems most illogical
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I should warn you, that this was typed on a phone and most liekly will have many incorrectly spelled words.
To my understanding, when people say there's no mods ingame, they mean something different. Methinks they mean they don't see mods -Removed by moderator- and whatnot about rules. But all us forum-goers know that the mods would never do that. <3 Heck, I've talked to people in-game who never even knew FH had a forum. *le gasp* ... I mean, have they really somehow managed to look at every single map in-game from every single place all at the same time? Methinks not. So, they do not KNOW that there is indeed not a single mod in any of the maps online, and actually paying attention, at any given time. Justbecause they're not yelling or smething at somebody doesnt mean they're not there. But this thread is more on the topic of rule following, so I suppose I should touch on that as well. o.o -totally not stating the obvious- Yes, I do think that rules should pop up in-game sometimes. How that would be set up, however, I have, frankly, no idea. Hurr. >~< Perhaps they could show up on the loading screens sometimes. Yes, I think the forum could be a bit neater. Yes, I think that peeople should do something instead of -Removed by moderator- and moaning about other people or problems. And, yes, I am aware that most people have lives, and therefore cannot spend hours on end in-game, modding about in their modnyess glory.
On another note, the other day I sat around on/in BI(lulz) and FP, curious as to what them "weirdo" peoples (you know who Im talking about) did in their spare time. And I have learned, that, not first the first tiime... There's just some things you can never unsee, man. D:
To add to this.
If they aren't signing into this forum.
How are they even getting on the game..?
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I should warn you, that this was typed on a phone and most liekly will have many incorrectly spelled words.
To my understanding, when people say there's no mods ingame, they mean something different. Methinks they mean they don't see mods -Removed by moderator- and whatnot about rules. But all us forum-goers know that the mods would never do that. <3 Heck, I've talked to people in-game who never even knew FH had a forum. *le gasp* ... I mean, have they really somehow managed to look at every single map in-game from every single place all at the same time? Methinks not. So, they do not KNOW that there is indeed not a single mod in any of the maps online, and actually paying attention, at any given time. Justbecause they're not yelling or smething at somebody doesnt mean they're not there. But this thread is more on the topic of rule following, so I suppose I should touch on that as well. o.o -totally not stating the obvious- Yes, I do think that rules should pop up in-game sometimes. How that would be set up, however, I have, frankly, no idea. Hurr. >~< Perhaps they could show up on the loading screens sometimes. Yes, I think the forum could be a bit neater. Yes, I think that peeople should do something instead of -Removed by moderator- and moaning about other people or problems. And, yes, I am aware that most people have lives, and therefore cannot spend hours on end in-game, modding about in their modnyess glory.
On another note, the other day I sat around on/in BI(lulz) and FP, curious as to what them "weirdo" peoples (you know who Im talking about) did in their spare time. And I have learned, that, not first the first tiime... There's just some things you can never unsee, man. D:
To add to this.
If they aren't signing into this forum.
How are they even getting on the game..?
They make an account, then go on the game. They don't have to come onto the forum to register.
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erhm- I think you HAVE to sign up- but most people just sign up and ignore the forums? (just a hypothesis- I'm probably wrong) :P
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I should warn you, that this was typed on a phone and most liekly will have many incorrectly spelled words.
To my understanding, when people say there's no mods ingame, they mean something different. Methinks they mean they don't see mods -Removed by moderator- and whatnot about rules. But all us forum-goers know that the mods would never do that. <3 Heck, I've talked to people in-game who never even knew FH had a forum. *le gasp* ... I mean, have they really somehow managed to look at every single map in-game from every single place all at the same time? Methinks not. So, they do not KNOW that there is indeed not a single mod in any of the maps online, and actually paying attention, at any given time. Justbecause they're not yelling or smething at somebody doesnt mean they're not there. But this thread is more on the topic of rule following, so I suppose I should touch on that as well. o.o -totally not stating the obvious- Yes, I do think that rules should pop up in-game sometimes. How that would be set up, however, I have, frankly, no idea. Hurr. >~< Perhaps they could show up on the loading screens sometimes. Yes, I think the forum could be a bit neater. Yes, I think that peeople should do something instead of -Removed by moderator- and moaning about other people or problems. And, yes, I am aware that most people have lives, and therefore cannot spend hours on end in-game, modding about in their modnyess glory.
On another note, the other day I sat around on/in BI(lulz) and FP, curious as to what them "weirdo" peoples (you know who Im talking about) did in their spare time. And I have learned, that, not first the first tiime... There's just some things you can never unsee, man. D:
To add to this.
If they aren't signing into this forum.
How are they even getting on the game..?
They make an account, then go on the game. They don't have to come onto the forum to register.
I meant, as far as them -not- joining the forum.
erhm- I think you HAVE to sign up- but most people just sign up and ignore the forums? (just a hypothesis- I'm probably wrong) :P
Clearly, I still say they should have a quiz or somethin of the rules. >.>.
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oh, sorry I misunderstood XP and then tried to answer based off of my misunderstanding (I'm such a dork sometimes) >_< a quiz would help people be more aware of the rules- and hopefully follow them, or atleast not have an excuse that "they didn't know the rules" if they get banned
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oh, sorry I misunderstood XP and then tried to answer based off of my misunderstanding (I'm such a dork sometimes) >_< a quiz would help people be more aware of the rules- and hopefully follow them, or atleast not have an excuse that "they didn't know the rules" if they get banned
Lol, it's fine xD.
And yes, I say a quiz you have to take of some sort. Of answering the rules, or what have you, as you join the forum. After you put in all your info and agree to terms of service, or what have you. The Quiz should pop up, making it so you have to pass it, in order to join the forum thus the game.
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As nice of a fantasy thought that is, Haruki, does sitting on ones ass to wait out a war 'settle things down?' No. Sure in the end things have been done and there's a 'winner' or final solution, HOWEVER if you did that, the forums and game could end up.. ick. Don't. Sit. On. Ass. Bad idea. give a -Removed by moderator- if this crashes and burns. But I do care about this community, at least, to an extent anyway. If you all care enough to -Removed by moderator-, care enough to try helping out. It isn't impossible to get new members to work with you. I've - HOLY -Removed by moderator- GUYS - done. It. Before. And remember we were ALL new members, noobs/newbs, at once. So get over yourselves and HELP each other you stubborn - censorship 8D -'s. >____>
It isn't a fantasy, its my opinion. I stand by it. It doesn't anger me or frustrate me in the least that people troll or mate beg or spam. Because there are options to turn it off.
It happened in Impressive Title, but just more dispersed. We still loved the game.
So what if someone offends another person. It happens.
What do we need to "get off our lazy asses" for, if there is already a solution?
Or, rather, a lack of problem.
Edit;; On another note, I support the rules ingame. Not so much as a pop-up, but maybe a button on the log-in screen that has etiquette and rules and even roleplay tips? Would be a nice addition.
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I really wanted to avoid posting in my own thread but this is starting to irk me a little...
It's really easy to say "So what if someone offends another person" because it's really hard to understand how it feels to be ganged up & harassed for no reason until it happens to you, and it feels like no ones taking the effort to try and slow it down - it almost feels like like the community supports it in away just bye saying "so what, not my problem." - and this is something I don't see allowed happening in other " Artistic MMO's" or Graphical Chat rooms if you will.
Yes - I'd be the first person to say " then leave" but for the last 3 weeks I've taken the time to sit down in BonFire and Ficho Tunnel totally in shock at not only the behavior ( because block button is awesome once more <3 ) but the fact that this stuff can go on for hours every day almost.. and people simply just uninstall the game after awhile or come to the forum and make a wall text about how this place sucks.. why is this I wonder? and how is this happening? I've seen 4-chan with less nasty stuff flooding the chat.. xD
granted I see so many stupid arguments happen ,but of what I see is lately is plotted and organized trolling ( I won't name groups or names but alot of you know what I'm talking about) just because they know they can get away with it. Shouldn't been tolerated. But I do realize that with in-game harassment comes with 'cyber pride' - and by this I mean members will not want to report members because
1- They don't want to look like p***ies ..I can't think of a better word so forgive me..
2- They think that they can win the "argument" instead of reporting.
3- Alot of these kids don't know who to report to/how to report because as said, they don't come to the forums to see who's ranked to handle in-game stuff and who is not (I received a bunch of pms today and I can't handle in-game issues...so who do they turn to exactly..?)
$-and ironically they end up banned when they are the victims, but if a mod wasn't there to see the WHOLE fight then who is to tell the difference?
But my point is cyber bullying is a type of harassment and shouldn't just be brushed off and ignored. I personally think we need to put a little bit of FEAR into these people (: Thus why I think having a public report system would make people realize that " oh crap, if I publicly humiliate someone then I will not only be banned but receive the same in return and be documented like a wall of shame." Honestly if your only butt-swinging people of said a lil cuss word, then it shouldn't be 'public humiliation' and you can just lol and move on, because that is easily disputable and can be deleted. No - I'm talking spammers, hackers/exploiters, and trolls.
but yes, I can see where most of you are getting at and maybe I'm just a person that believes in order and discipline when it comes to pro and organization of games wise..maybe I'm just harsh though Dx
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I really wanted to avoid posting in my own thread but this is starting to irk me a little...
It's really easy to say "So what if someone offends another person" because it's really hard to understand how it feels to be ganged up & harassed for no reason until it happens to you, and it feels like no ones taking the effort to try and slow it down - it almost feels like like the community supports it in away just bye saying "so what, not my problem." - and this is something I don't see allowed happening in other " Artistic MMO's" or Graphical Chat rooms if you will.
Yes - I'd be the first person to say " then leave" but for the last 3 weeks I've taken the time to sit down in BonFire and Ficho Tunnel totally in shock at not only the behavior ( because block button is awesome once more <3 ) but the fact that this stuff can go on for hours every day almost.. and people simply just uninstall the game after awhile or come to the forum and make a wall text about how this place sucks.. why is this I wonder? and how is this happening? I've seen 4-chan with less nasty stuff flooding the chat.. xD
granted I see so many stupid arguments happen ,but of what I see is lately is plotted and organized trolling ( I won't name groups or names but alot of you know what I'm talking about) just because they know they can get away with it. Shouldn't been tolerated. But I do realize that with in-game harassment comes with 'cyber pride' - and by this I mean members will not want to report members because
1- They don't want to look like p***ies ..I can't think of a better word so forgive me..
2- They think that they can win the "argument" instead of reporting.
3- Alot of these kids don't know who to report to/how to report because as said, they don't come to the forums to see who's ranked to handle in-game stuff and who is not (I received a bunch of pms today and I can't handle in-game issues...so who do they turn to exactly..?)
$-and ironically they end up banned when they are the victims, but if a mod wasn't there to see the WHOLE fight then who is to tell the difference?
But my point is cyber bullying is a type of harassment and shouldn't just be brushed off and ignored. I personally think we need to put a little bit of FEAR into these people (: Thus why I think having a public report system would make people realize that " oh crap, if I publicly humiliate someone then I will not only be banned but receive the same in return and be documented like a wall of shame." Honestly if your only butt-swinging people of said a lil cuss word, then it should be 'public humiliation' and you can just lol and move on, because that is easily disputable and can be deleted. No - I'm talking spammers, hackers/exploiters, and trolls.
but yes, I can see where most of you are getting at and maybe I'm just a person that believes in order and discipline when it comes to pro and organization of games wise..maybe I'm just harsh though Dx
I agree with all of that. I may not go on the game as much as I used to, but that's because I'm waiting on a system that will actually work with getting rid of all the trolls and such. I don't know enough people on FH to be able to just go into a private map, and I much prefer running around in the public ones, chatting with people. But the amount of stuff that goes in in the public maps is horrific. We obviously need something done about it, and soon, and your idea Sly, sounds perfect. It probably won't get rid of everything, but it will minimise the amount going on. Most of these people despite going around making a fool of themself probably don't want to be named and shamed, and will stop once they see they are.
So I say this sounds perfectly reasonable. And if they don't stop after being told not to, being named and shamed, then they obviously don't really deserve to be on FH do they? If they want to go around making a mess of FH, and don't care when they're told not to, get rid of them.
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Lmfao epic win!
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hmmn- now I can see why it would be harsh but necessary to have a wall-of-shame type thing- I think though that it should only be for supreme cases of ultimate cyber-bullying. :( . The issue with having a wall of shame though (it would be good to have to a degree) is that those on it might seek redemption and their wrong doing will forever be the only thing people think of them when they are trying to make amends (or maybe they can make a new account and start over? knowing that they need to behave or lose it YET AGAIN?) Also- sorry for my inability to fully understand techno jargon- but what exactly IS a troll? (I know it involves being a jerk) and what do the "organized trollers" that Slycan mentioned do? Does their plotting to troll originate on the forums (I hope not :( ) I agree that cyber bullying in the chat is not cool- and it's not only an issue that affects FH but affects manymany people in other cyber areas. I read an interesting article the other day that pointed out that hackers, virus writers, and bullies on the internet aren't necessarily moraly devoid in the real-world, it's just hard for them to grasp that the internet and their behaviour on it has real-life consequences. I'm not defending them exactly- but before a wall of shame is implemented offenders in-game should be given a chance to shape-up and be fully aware of rules and consequences before we resort to a "wall-of-shame". And as an extra precaution so that people don't make reporting posts just to spite someone (people do do that believe it or not) all reports+evidence should be ok'ed through a mod before posted and the reporter should remain anonymous to the public so that any potential friends of the offender don't harass them for being "tattle-tales" (which they totally are not, telling is the right thing to do in this case). I agree that strict discipline is probably a good solution but we should make sure everyone is informed of the consequences of misbehaving first. ok sorry for the text wall again XP
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I honestly have to disagree with the "Wall Of Shame" idea. :B Not saying there shouldn't be one in general, but that it'd be better if only the mods/admins can see it. Like, a 'Warned/Banned User List'. I know that it might be necessary for a "Wall Of Shame", but I think users would be humiliated enough knowing they are banned for [insert amount of days here]. xD
Now, for the 'Report To a Mod' ingame, that I agree with 100%. Putting fear into the members about being banned is a must. ^^; Banned will always bring fear IMO. xD;
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I honestly have to disagree with the "Wall Of Shame" idea. :B Not saying there shouldn't be one in general, but that it'd be better if only the mods/admins can see it. Like, a 'Warned/Banned User List'. I know that it might be necessary for a "Wall Of Shame", but I think users would be humiliated enough knowing they are banned for [insert amount of days here]. xD
Now, for the 'Report To a Mod' ingame, that I agree with 100%. Putting fear into the members about being banned is a must. ^^; Banned will always bring fear IMO. xD;
That sounds like a good compromise concerning "the wall" right there ^^ If reporting to a mod ingame is implemented (which it should be ) we have to make sure the mod isn't swamped with people just trying to talk to them and get attention. I recall a post a while back where someone said they were going to report some serious butt-swinging to a mod but when they found the mod they were being swamped with messages and concerns from other users- so the mod was unable to even hear their message about inapropriate behaviour let alone do anything about it 0-0 so we need to make sure our mods aren't over whelmed with complaints that don't necessarily need to be made yeah?
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I know exactly what you mean about mods being interrupted ingame. It annoys me when a mod is trying to help someone, and then random users go, "HEY MOD! CAN I PLZ BE A MOD 2?!? OMG." Or some other random question. ._. And the mod ends up unable to help. D: So the other person gets completely ignored...
Something really needs to be done about it. A report area would be a great way to solve this.
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Think the wall of shame was taken out of context abit. What I meant was that the "wall of shame" would = Public Reporting, meaning if your busted and you come to the forum wondering why, your name and your screenshot will be posted and waiting for you, along with the dispute description..
Sort of like how law enforcement keeps public documentation files. Not only is it good for scaring people, but its good so people know who to avoid and what to avoid to get banned - but so it's easier to keep track of who keeps doing what and if they need to be permanent removed from the game, ( mods can indeed IP ban, especially if they make a new account to hide in.)
Also, if a report is expired or simply not breaking any rules, or if the trouble maker makes a dispute reply that works in their favor, it can easily be deleted or removed from the section.
But this is only one solution that has been brought up :3
keep the idea's flowing!
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^ROFL at sample.
but yes good ideas
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I dig all of the ideas you mentioned- but what stood out to me that should definately be put in is the map-owners ability to kick out people who are being jerks ^_^
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I dig all of the ideas you mentioned- but what stood out to me that should definately be put in is the map-owners ability to kick out people who are being jerks ^_^
Aye, this I will have to agree to. Though one draw back - Unfair map makers could just as easily abuse this power.
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I dig all of the ideas you mentioned- but what stood out to me that should definately be put in is the map-owners ability to kick out people who are being jerks ^_^
Aye, this I will have to agree to. Though one draw back - Unfair map makers could just as easily abuse this power.
well.. it IS their map >.>' they can act how they want to and have their own guidelines even if it isn't faitr ( so long as they aren't breaking any FH rules to a extend ) but since it is there map I don't see why they should be able to have control the way they want it.
But this is not to say official maps should be treated the same way ( since they are for ~everyone~ as Kov intended.)
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I dig all of the ideas you mentioned- but what stood out to me that should definately be put in is the map-owners ability to kick out people who are being jerks ^_^
Aye, this I will have to agree to. Though one draw back - Unfair map makers could just as easily abuse this power.
well.. it IS their map >.>' they can act how they want to and have their own guidelines even if it isn't faitr ( so long as they aren't breaking any FH rules to a extend ) but since it is there map I don't see why they should be able to have control the way they want it.
But this is not to say official maps should be treated the same way ( since they are for ~everyone~ as Kov intended.)
xD, Just meant maps people make. Not Kov or any of the team, surely. I know it likely wouldn't come to that, seeing we have you, mods that is.
As for that, eh. I'm not sure what remark to say..maybe when I think of it, I'll put something here.
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It would make long term rps a lot more enjoyable if the owners could just boot a troll from the map instead of dealing with there trolling for hours on end. :3
That also goes to an rp thing. If you don't like the rp why did you join it in the first place? You know?
Of course, those singular rules should be used on private maps only with their groups and so on. The regular maps should follow FH rules and regulations at all times.
Happy you guys enjoyed my ideas <3 Slycan you were right to put them up. ^_^
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Sorry if this post if a little mean but I'm just trying to make a point here... lol and this is my favorite part xD
"D- I can't play this game anymore, I quit.
*Well that's nice of you to give up on the suppose 'sh*tty community' that you YOURSELF been part of so long. And if you just joined, then just quietly leave because you're not helping us much at all make it better.( or running my mouth around claiming that another game will be ' teh better erp derp' when it isn't even released yet .) But to be fair, from the way things are going I've thought of going into hiding myself, but instead I wanna try and improve it and make it better instead of b**ching about it.. (: *
E - Dimensions
No
1- As Gem said, this will make it even HARDER for in-game mods, there is not enough of them and none of them can be on all the dims at once. This is basically giving trouble makers more power to hide from mods.
2- "They aren't going to be added." ~ Kovu , the maker of the game
3- Kinda forces you to learn how to make a map and be creative like the game is about, durhur."
but in all seriousness... Those are great suggestions and honestly, if you want to be whiny or b*tchy, then go for it. The block button still works, the Mods will eventually hear about it, and IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. If you're being picked on, let it go! You may never see them again, you will never meet them in real life, honestly "rub some dirt in it" and toughen up!
It builds character if you are the better person and you just ignore it. Whining and complaining and reporting just gives the bully what they want: ATTENTION. They want to get a rise out of you, so just let it go and don't feed the fire!
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erhm- I don't think the bully wants you to report them and get them banned. . . .and bullies shouldn't be allowed to do as they wish in the game- so SOME control should be exercised over them. YOu can only ignore things for so long before you feel fed-up and unwelcome? I think reporting and banning sends a stronger message of non-tolerance of bullying than just ignoring it. Cyber bullying is a serious thing- and whether we want to admit it or not words can really really hurt especially when you are playing a game that you play to get away from reality for awhile- people shouldn't have to have their welcome into FH be harassers and no one doing anything about it
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but in all seriousness... Those are great suggestions and honestly, if you want to be whiny or b*tchy, then go for it. The block button still works, the Mods will eventually hear about it, and IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. If you're being picked on, let it go! You may never see them again, you will never meet them in real life, honestly "rub some dirt in it" and toughen up!
It builds character if you are the better person and you just ignore it. Whining and complaining and reporting just gives the bully what they want: ATTENTION. They want to get a rise out of you, so just let it go and don't feed the fire!
Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
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I'm going to have to agree with Higby on this one. Usuallu they don't like being baned hince them having multiple accounts and emails and so on. The easiest thing for a member like us to do is to report them. After that al we can do is block and wait fo something to be done. Though I think when something is done about the issues they should tell the victim so they know that they aren't being ignored.
I do agree about the need for more in game moderators. Thanks everyone for reading my stuff! Sorry if it was a little lenghty! And they are righignoring stuff doesn't make it better.
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If you have enough staff, you can assign them according to time zones to be on at a certain time. So there will always be at least one moderators watching no matter what time. Of course this takes a lot of time and organization, but if done correctly it can work and be efficient. This way works best is what I find, but I run a smaller operation so it might not work as well for FH as a whole.
I like this idea, pretty much because there's a time at my night time where I go on, and I'm pretty sure it's a time when there are no mods at all on, quite possible for about an hour maybe more. Users do troll around at this time and generally when I report them no mod will appear (and the users will end up blocked). So I go onto the forums and there's no mods online there either.
D: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the mods are being slack. I'm kind of saying I think there needs to be "timezone" mods to be able to cover all areas of the day/night.
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Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
Ignoring trolls does usually make them go away, actually. :D
Whenever someone tries to rape me I just ignore them and they go away after a bit. If everyone ignored them they would stop doing it. But I do see the point in this thread and I think the 'wall-of-shame' would have some value. I'd like to see how this pans out in the end.
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Sorry if this post if a little mean but I'm just trying to make a point here... lol and this is my favorite part xD
"D- I can't play this game anymore, I quit.
*Well that's nice of you to give up on the suppose 'sh*tty community' that you YOURSELF been part of so long. And if you just joined, then just quietly leave because you're not helping us much at all make it better.( or running my mouth around claiming that another game will be ' teh better erp derp' when it isn't even released yet .) But to be fair, from the way things are going I've thought of going into hiding myself, but instead I wanna try and improve it and make it better instead of b**ching about it.. (: *
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1- As Gem said, this will make it even HARDER for in-game mods, there is not enough of them and none of them can be on all the dims at once. This is basically giving trouble makers more power to hide from mods.
2- "They aren't going to be added." ~ Kovu , the maker of the game
3- Kinda forces you to learn how to make a map and be creative like the game is about, durhur."
but in all seriousness... Those are great suggestions and honestly, if you want to be whiny or b*tchy, then go for it. The block button still works, the Mods will eventually hear about it, and IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. If you're being picked on, let it go! You may never see them again, you will never meet them in real life, honestly "rub some dirt in it" and toughen up!
It builds character if you are the better person and you just ignore it. Whining and complaining and reporting just gives the bully what they want: ATTENTION. They want to get a rise out of you, so just let it go and don't feed the fire!
disaggree. you just sound like you say irl:
oh look boys harssing a girl, maybe they will hurt her... then shout:
hey girl! just ignore them, no worries if they hit you, they ill get bored eventually, and if you go to police it wont do anything because they will be harassingn you more...
this just sounded so wrong...
see the problem?
this is the problem with kinds, teens and some adults.
They just ignore it because they never were victim to such a thing.
they find even fun in this.
dont tell me that irl life doesnt have to do anything with this...
trust me.. if you ignore stuff here.. there is a super huge chance you do the same thing irl. and it does more damage.
now just tell me... would you just stand there and watch how those boys beat up that girl?
about mods being spammed with ppl asking stuffs, and reporting everything and seek attention while pressing the "report to mod" button: have a punishment for that.
just an example:
spamming mod in work: 1 days bann
pressing "report to mod" without anything happening: 2 days bann.
Totally agreeing to Wall of Shame. Could stop some ppl.
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Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
Ignoring trolls does usually make them go away, actually. :D
Whenever someone tries to rape me I just ignore them and they go away after a bit. If everyone ignored them they would stop doing it. But I do see the point in this thread and I think the 'wall-of-shame' would have some value. I'd like to see how this pans out in the end.
This thread is really based at the more serious offenses, not people buttswinging people. So sure, ignoring someone buttswinging someone might bore them, but those making serious offences can't just be ignored and it'll stop, you encourage them because they don't get in trouble.
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Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
Ignoring trolls does usually make them go away, actually. :D
Whenever someone tries to rape me I just ignore them and they go away after a bit. If everyone ignored them they would stop doing it. But I do see the point in this thread and I think the 'wall-of-shame' would have some value. I'd like to see how this pans out in the end.
This thread is really based at the more serious offenses, not people buttswinging people. So sure, ignoring someone buttswinging someone might bore them, but those making serious offences can't just be ignored and it'll stop, you encourage them because they don't get in trouble.
I agree Kyu <3 we should do everything BUT ignore these people, they need to be stopped
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Map maker makes map.
Therefor map maker has right to kick whoever they want out because it is their map.
As long as it IS NOT a public map.
Seems fair 'nuff.
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Map maker makes map.
Therefor map maker has right to kick whoever they want out because it is their map.
As long as it IS NOT a public map.
Seems fair 'nuff.
yeah this should defineately be a feature put in for the mapmaker :3
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There should also be a nomination system. Or veto system.
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I'd have to say Sly, I love you for this. I, Wudiin, the b*tchy pink sheep of doom, un-installed the game (reinstalling for mapmaking, and I wanna see how bad stuff is ). Not because of trolling, but simply because of the sh*t that goes down and no mods are ever on to stop it. Ever. It's annoying, and stressful when you're trying to speak to a friend(s) and some random person(s) approch you, and procceede to 'kill' 'rape' whatever they can think of. Now I myself could care less, since this IS the internet and one should expect as much. But when you have 7-8 year old kids in-game (which shouldent be ingame anyways but thats for a nother' time) that needs to be delt with, and I rarely see that glorious wall of red text from a mod :/ I understand mods have lives, but when you take on a job for any game, you have an effing responsibility, dont think someone else is gonna take up the slack for you, cuse we ALL see how well thats worked out.
I've, so far only see a handful of member trying to solve the issue, maybe I'm missing a few but I doubt it.
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Yeah Wudiin i agree with that there is no mods on it to stop it...yeah and that is annoying that's why i say we need more in game mods that can stop it. Yes the in game mods have a life but they can come on a bit to take the responsibility. Yeah there is young people on FH and its not so fun for them to see people do the buttswing on someone. Mod75 stops them sometimes. I often then i mean OFTEN see people use bad language (sometimes very bad and someone talked about hormones..yeah eh) spam and i almost always see rape, almost every time im on.
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It's why I left the game for a bit :/
It's just... a mess...
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Mhm :/
And Yeah it is >.<
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Map maker makes map.
Therefor map maker has right to kick whoever they want out because it is their map.
As long as it IS NOT a public map.
Seems fair 'nuff.
I agree with you there! 100%. Whoever makes the map, has the right to kick anyone out. Their map. Their rules. They get to decide what to do. Just as long as they don't abuse it. e.e
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The why talk about it any more? Let's do something! :)
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Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
Ignoring trolls does usually make them go away, actually. :D
Whenever someone tries to rape me I just ignore them and they go away after a bit. If everyone ignored them they would stop doing it. But I do see the point in this thread and I think the 'wall-of-shame' would have some value. I'd like to see how this pans out in the end.
Those who troll, buttswing, ect. Sure, you can ignore them. But it doesn't make them go away, or stop the problem. The only way to solve it, is to set them right, or ban them from the game simply.
The why talk about it any more? Let's do something! :)
^, I like their attitude, more of us should be like this.
Doing what needs to be done, not siting here idly chating about it.
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Being that there really isn't much just the average member can do, I think you guys are doing a great job jst by speaking up ( as apposed to giving up ). It's great that actual idea's and thoughts on the matter are being submitted , instead of crying - isn't it? This helps out the Higher-Up's alot more clearly so they actually know what's really going on between all the insults/trolling/spam/rage quits.
Respect given is respect earned.
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yaysauce on toast! Glad this is helpful ^_^
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Well it's not only that, I tell people in game all the time to follow the rules. So what if they complain about it. There's something that even other members can do. It's called peer pressure, and if enough people are willing to open up there mouths and say "Enough." Then people are bound to follow. You just need those people willing to take that first step. :D
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Well it's not only that, I tell people in game all the time to follow the rules. So what if they complain about it. There's something that even other members can do. It's called peer pressure, and if enough people are willing to open up there mouths and say "Enough." Then people are bound to follow. You just need those people willing to take that first step. :D
hmmn- well- it's worth a shot even if people tell you to quit being a goody goody XD *Dons troll-smashing boots* let's go! Untill relief arrives in the form of official updated meanie-smashing software we shall hold the front-lines with our shields and spears! RARR! >:D
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but in all seriousness... Those are great suggestions and honestly, if you want to be whiny or b*tchy, then go for it. The block button still works, the Mods will eventually hear about it, and IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. If you're being picked on, let it go! You may never see them again, you will never meet them in real life, honestly "rub some dirt in it" and toughen up!
It builds character if you are the better person and you just ignore it. Whining and complaining and reporting just gives the bully what they want: ATTENTION. They want to get a rise out of you, so just let it go and don't feed the fire!
Ignoring the problem, doesn't make it go away.
Twi~
Big red text rararar okay we get the point. >:U
tl;dr chill out, I agree with the disputes possibility AND the map owner commands 100% and hopefully it will be done. do want <3
Report/Block always works for me, but being as hated and mean as I am, I tell `em to GTFO, block `em, and laugh. I'm such a sadomasochistic lady~
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If there are enough people that will tell them to knock it off. Idk if you were at the plains general when they were all shouting what they were shouting, but I told them to knock it off and they did. There's a way to say stuff and get things done politely and then there's the way to say stuff that makes you sound like a psycho troll. :3 I prefer the first way.
There are of course, a couple trolls that are on each night 10:00 pm my time, when it seems to become the mod'less zone. I think if you get rid of the leaders, maybe you can scare the followers into being silent.
I love the way it sounds like we're planning a giant FH war. But then again...we are. Trolls VS Non Trolls?
Motoko blocking people doesn't work. It works for the one person, but what about the +400 others that logs on when everyone is swearing there heads off. Then what? The easiest thing to do is to send screenshots, after trying intervention to urge them to stop breaking the rules. After that, I say they get the boot for a while. But maybe that's too harsh?
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If there are enough people that will tell them to knock it off. Idk if you were at the plains general when they were all shouting what they were shouting, but I told them to knock it off and they did. There's a way to say stuff and get things done politely and then there's the way to say stuff that makes you sound like a psycho troll. :3 I prefer the first way.
There are of course, a couple trolls that are on each night 10:00 pm my time, when it seems to become the mod'less zone. I think if you get rid of the leaders, maybe you can scare the followers into being silent.
I love the way it sounds like we're planning a giant FH war. But then again...we are. Trolls VS Non Trolls?
Motoko blocking people doesn't work. It works for the one person, but what about the +400 others that logs on when everyone is swearing there heads off. Then what? The easiest thing to do is to send screenshots, after trying intervention to urge them to stop breaking the rules. After that, I say they get the boot for a while. But maybe that's too harsh?
Simple. there will be people like this, and SADLY Life is not a video game, you need to man up and deal with it. there will always be those people. I've been suspended from whirled like. 10+ times and still idgaf, As long as nobody tries to troll me I won't get 10+ people from furcadia to come whiteknight for me. ily guys.
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At this point I think harshness is needed my friend :(. and if you WARN them first before booting them off then it's their own bloody fault and not harsh at all methinks, the key here is to inform them first of the rules and if they even then don't follow them it's time for the foot-in-the-seat procedure.
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At this point I think harshness is needed my friend :(. and if you WARN them first before booting them off then it's their own bloody fault and not harsh at all methinks, the key here is to inform them first of the rules and if they even then don't follow them it's time for the foot-in-the-seat procedure.
Exactly, but most wannabe trolls (the kind who lacks intelligence) just need to be booted. if it shows no sign of sentience, kick it. hard. and don't let it back in until it learns to read.
+ just thought of this, we need a function to allow a map to have specific rules somehow.
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I agree with both of you. But if you were in the plains a moment ago when the trolls where being lead by the head trollers into a big whirl wind of trolling you would know what I mean. Boot those guys, let the tiny trolls know it won't be tolerated. Like what they were saying broke every single rule FH has. And I know for a fact that if a mod WAS on they would have been kicked A.S.A.P. There are children on the game that are 8 and if their parents saw them saying/looking at some of the things that were going through general their parents wouldn't let them EVER play Fh again. I know if it was my kid they wouldn't be even able to get on FH nevertheless play it.
Someone in the plains said "well it's for 13 year old anyways, and they should know about the ...[sexual content inserted here] that we are talking about anyways." Er WRONG. I have never met a 13 year old in real life that knows what XYZ is and knows how to do XYZ, and if they did and do, then that's extremely bad parenting and social services need to be at that house A.S.A.P. Anyways, it still breaks all the rules, it doesn't matter if they are supposed to be a certain age, the rules should be followed anyways.
Blah. Sorry about my rant. But I hate it when people say stupid stuff like the person did in the plains.
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I don't see anyone really saying that this game is equivalent to real life. More or less there's dispute whether or not to simply ignore the issue and let trouble makers continue on being trouble makers, or if there should be away to slow down the lack of discipline in-game. These are becoming major cases of harassment/exploiting. Not saying being ban-happy is the answer, but going to the next extreme where they think they can't get away with doing anything? - Hm.. nothing like coming into a game, and the moment it's done loading you have to start blocking 10+ people all the time in each map you waltz into.
Using block button in Feralheart is like trying to use lotion to stop hepatitis. It may stop the itching, but it's still nasty. ;P
About time to get some doctors maybe?
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Lulz at description at the end. Nuzzling you for that one Slycan.
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I agree with both of you. But if you were in the plains a moment ago when the trolls where being lead by the head trollers into a big whirl wind of trolling you would know what I mean. Boot those guys, let the tiny trolls know it won't be tolerated. Like what they were saying broke every single rule FH has. And I know for a fact that if a mod WAS on they would have been kicked A.S.A.P. There are children on the game that are 8 and if their parents saw them saying/looking at some of the things that were going through general their parents wouldn't let them EVER play Fh again. I know if it was my kid they wouldn't be even able to get on FH nevertheless play it.
Someone in the plains said "well it's for 13 year old anyways, and they should know about the ...[sexual content inserted here] that we are talking about anyways." Er WRONG. I have never met a 13 year old in real life that knows what XYZ is and knows how to do XYZ, and if they did and do, then that's extremely bad parenting and social services need to be at that house A.S.A.P. Anyways, it still breaks all the rules, it doesn't matter if they are supposed to be a certain age, the rules should be followed anyways.
Blah. Sorry about my rant. But I hate it when people say stupid stuff like the person did in the plains.
Actually, about the 13 year olds don't know that stuff comment, they may not know most of it, and details and all that, but they do know, because this stuff is taught to them in school, because it's at their age they tend to hit puberty. So they have to be taught some details at least, lest they go unaware of what is happening. In fact, you can hit puberty at like, 10 or 11 even. My mum even told me of a story in america where a 11 year old had to go to court about an abortion because her step father did a bad deed to her and got her pregnant.
So I don't think 13 year old should not know at least a little bit about that. But there are details they don't need to know. They don't need to know all the dirty little details, just what the changes are and why. That, and where babies come from too.
But that doesn't mean they can go around talking about it on FH of course, I'm just pointing out that it is normal for 13 year olds to know about 'that', and if they haven't heard it from their parents or teachers, trust me, they WILL hear about it from somewhere.
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I don't see anyone really saying that this game is equivalent to real life. More or less there's dispute whether or not to simply ignore the issue and let trouble makers continue on being trouble makers, or if there should be away to slow down the lack of discipline in-game. These are becoming major cases of harassment/exploiting. Not saying being ban-happy is the answer, but going to the next extreme where they think they can't get away with doing anything? - Hm.. nothing like coming into a game, and the moment it's done loading you have to start blocking 10+ people all the time in each map you waltz into.
Using block button in Feralheart is like trying to use lotion to stop hepatitis. It may stop the itching, but it's still nasty. ;P
About time to get some doctors maybe?
XD Love how you put that at the end Slycan XD This has all made me want to march back into FH and try to put a stop to it myself XD
Gather army of do gooders, for our enemy the trolls are among us, and we must fight!
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I noticed from when I first joined here, the rate of trolls, etc went up greatly. I used it see it every now and then, but now...it's like, what??! I see it everywhere sometimes. o_o It's crazy. I never use the block button because I don't need other people butt-swinging me and I don't know it. xD Or other things, yeah. I think adding mods ingame with different timezones could also help. Like, spread it out, you know? That's my opinion. Since most mods seem to have the same timezone. (I think. D: )
LOL Sly, lovely description at the end there. xD
*ninja'd 3 times*
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Yep. I think that would solve a little bit, different time zone moderators. Lulz. But yes, I know what you mean, yeah they might know about birds and bees but I'm absolutively positive that it isn't detailed because my mother didn't tell me the whole sha-bang until I was 16 (but by then friends already had it down pat) :D
It's not doing good really, it's like...a game. Troll hunting! Ftw :D
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~Video Talking about Cyber Bullying; includes bad language~
h.ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZiRT8Nwkk
This isn't to contradict myself; but this is to say that our community aren't the whiny, suicidal idiots that trolls and other artistic communities think FH is. We can do are better than that ;3
but yes cyber bullying isn't the same as real life bullying, it's just it seems that most other games keep it order control better ( because yes, it is indeed against the law and blah blah)
last thing I want is some 9 year old member running into a group of pedo-bear 40 year old in-game then gets trolled by the pack because he didn't yiff them in group-chat, then rage quits and next thing you know he's in the tub drowning in his own blood with a note saying "Ppl were mean to me in FeralHeart, I just wanted to find a m8 but then got ganged up on.. byes"
Keep your channels on NBC's Dateline and tell me when FH pop's up on How to Catch a Predator...
Just kiddin.. like that would happen...
>_>''
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I don't see anyone really saying that this game is equivalent to real life. More or less there's dispute whether or not to simply ignore the issue and let trouble makers continue on being trouble makers, or if there should be away to slow down the lack of discipline in-game. These are becoming major cases of harassment/exploiting. Not saying being ban-happy is the answer, but going to the next extreme where they think they can't get away with doing anything? - Hm.. nothing like coming into a game, and the moment it's done loading you have to start blocking 10+ people all the time in each map you waltz into.
Using block button in Feralheart is like trying to use lotion to stop hepatitis. It may stop the itching, but it's still nasty. ;P
About time to get some doctors maybe?
+1 for you, but telling the people on the map to block them means no attention for them, and no attention means failure at trolling.
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last thing I want is some 9 year old member running into a group of pedo-bear 40 year old in-game then gets trolled by the pack because he didn't yiff them in group-chat, then rage quits and next thing you know he's in the tub drowning in his own blood with a note saying "Ppl were mean to me in FeralHeart, I just wanted to find a m8 but then got ganged up on.. byes"
Keep your channels on NBC's Dateline and tell me when FH pop's up on How to Catch a Predator...
Just kiddin.. like that would happen...
>_>''
Mkay, this just caught me off guard. o.o Knowing that something like this could happen (if someone is bullied enough), that makes me want to help the FH community even more. D: I mean, whenever I hear of someone committing suicide over bullying, it just tears me, because I realize there's people out there in this world that think they are SO superior to everyone else and that they can do whatever the bleh they want. ._. No. Just no.
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Okay then, what are we going to do then? Something needs to be done. Wall of shame them? Have the moderators go ban happy? Assign more moderators? :o Pick your poison!
@Slycan: That is bad, that video...that guy sadly the way he was saying it was slightly comical and I found myself chuckling at parts and then glaring at him in other parts. Understand though here he and you are coming from though.
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All of the above.
And we can also probably do something ourselves, go out on patrols and find these people, and do something about it. Screenshot them and report them, send the screenies to mods, warn these people what they are doing is wrong. Our own little parade against these fools. Our own FH army of troll seekers XD
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Sounds fun are you in game right now? xD Oooo snap vigilante justice ftw :D
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Yeah. C: Going out a screen-shotting would be a good idea. I mean, there has to be some way we can help out the mods. :3
xD It does sound like fun, actually. Especially when you call it 'FH Army Of Troll Seekser' xD!
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Not right now But I can be XD Ooh, we need vigilante names XD Ritzagirl and Kyugimaperson And Sylphtron.... That just sounds weird XD
I think the place that needs the most sorting out is bonfire island though, I don't see too much going on in Flourite plains when i am on, but I think I might just be missing it or something...
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Oh you missed it. I can tell you that one right now. Okay. I'll meet you all in bonfire! Just let me teleport really quick. xD
And those names make US seem like trolls xDDDDD Lulz
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Oh it goes on in Fluorite Plains alright. It's incredibly ridiculous. It ranges from rapefests, swearing to high heaven and just incredibly vulgar things in general.
:\ we really do not want to know what goes on down below *insert username here*. And then I find it kind of ironic that they then whine about not having any online friends >_>
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Was told to mention this from one of my PMs :B
" I generally feel that when you report people it goes unheard so I just kinda don't do it anymore and just block people x_X. I get tired of reporting people then waiting and waiting and nothing happens. "
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All of the above.
And we can also probably do something ourselves, go out on patrols and find these people, and do something about it. Screenshot them and report them, send the screenies to mods, warn these people what they are doing is wrong. Our own little parade against these fools. Our own FH army of troll seekers XD
ban patrol.
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Actually when we were in game together last night we decided upon. "Troll Patrol" xD
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XD And surprisingly enough, nothing happened... Even after Sylph and Ritza left, the only thing I saw was a bunch of friends mucking around in a way that could be taken badly by a mod, I hung around long enough to find out they were friends at least, they were buttswinging someone who was lying down, and then the person lying down came back. At first glance they looked like trolls, but they were just friends playing a prank on their friend for when he got back XD
But I did warn them not to drag people who aren't their friends in, after all, a little fun between friends isn't really trolling or doing anything wrong, but once they start dragging others in, it's no longer harmless fun XD
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Hmm.
1. Fight fire with fire.
We can attack the trolls who flame, with fire itself. Attack ALL issues with fire, see how that goes.
Or think sensible. Which a lot of us don't seem to do.
Although I've been watching this thread, and finding how certain people talk and have takes on this is.. well it's interesting, that's for sure.
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Why would we attack all issues with fire? That doesn't seem logical. Actually, I prefer talk, I prefer saying "Please go to feral-heart.com and check the rules and regulations since it seems like you have forgotten them temporarily." <--- That method tends to work, of course you get the people who go "**** no, or shut the **** up." And so on, but then again, that's when you take a screenshot and move on, you already warned them right? Report it. People shouldn't be able to get away with it.
"You have the right to a speedy trail." Let's start quoting amendments. That means "you have the right to be quickly reported to a moderator." That amendment internet style. :D "You have the right to a trial by your peers." <--- That would cover the "wall of shame" :3 Tehehe.
Miranda Troll Rights! (edited in)
You have the right to remain silent. <---- Wish trolls would use this right more often.
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. <--- Screenshots ftw
You have the right to a attorney <--- Your best attorney on the internet is just not to open your mouth in the first place. :D
If you can't afford one, one will be appointed for you. <--- If you can't afford common sense. Too bad. We cant' give you that one. If you weren't born with it or learned it by now...your in trouble! :D
Don't judge me. It's my law humor, changed it for you all to fit internet trolling needs xDDD
Edited: Quick typing FTL :D
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*Trial
Trail by your peers XD Thought that was a funny typo.
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I agree with most, if not all of the previous posts.
Only reason I uninstalled this game was because I'm an antisocial person. I'm quite glad that something like this has been set up. Seeing as the way it seemed that this sort of thing was looked on a bit indifferently to the point that I felt a vibe that made it seem like people didn't care about it since it's encountered everywhere. That was the main reason I hardly came on here. I often got p***ed at how the"use the block feature" was used. To me encountering that phrase as much as I did was neglectful to people who are concerned. I was constantly asking in my head "Do the people that actually care matter here?" I don't remember if I was enraged, appalled, or some odd combination of both, but at the time that phrase gave me a rather negative opinion of staff.
Anyway...
I think that having rules appear in game be somewhat of an annoyance, and that they should have their own spot in the options menu, as well as appear on the loading screen from time to time.
That's my view on that.
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Well, I was on FH today, and I saw people swearing up a storm. They were swearing, butt-swinging, etc. I saw this all on general chat. I told them I'd report, and they told me to shut up. (I think, at least) =o But yeah, threatening to report doesn't really hurt them, but if there was a REAL report button. Haha. I bet they would stop then.
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Hey Troll Patrol let's meet in the plains again! :D
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xD I'll meet you there in 10 minutes or so. Kinda busy at the moment.
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I am going to a 21st today, I won't be able to make it, but tomorrow I'm free, so I'll be on then XD
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I don't want to sound like a party pooper but...isn't trying to tell the trolls off going against the old "Don't feed the trolls" thing?
It's why I don't go scolding them whenever I see them plaster themselves all over General chat.
I've seen Trolls disobey Mods right infont of their face too. Course the Mods have the advantage of using a ban on them when they do.
And for the record, yesterday I went back on again and saw that the trolls I saw earlier hadn't been dealt with.
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Yeah Draak I know what you mean by "don't feed the trolls." But really there aren't a lot of trolls. We have Trolls and then we have Ogres, Ogres are like mini trolls, these ogres don't troll if a Troll isn't around. But as soon as the Troll gets on all of a sudden the ogres open their mouths and start to "troll" as well. Get rid of the ring leaders and you get rid of the ogres.
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This is the first I've heard of "Ogres" XD
But yeah you're right with that whole situation. It's like "Woah where'd they all come from O_o"
I'm going to agree on that too, since it sounds plausible. It's like a hive, kill the Queen and the rest of the hive will die out. And of course if the little "ogres" step up they'll just get the banhammer too XD
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... it's like reading and WarCraft manual from the 90's
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I can think of four "queen bees" Troll's that I've seen. Ogres never really bother me until they open their mouths when their "queens" come around.
@Draak Ogres ftl! :D
@Slycan Is it bad that I didn't know what that was until I google searched it? :/
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I know of one definate "Queen Bee" troll that's on during my time. I've blocked them XD. When that person is on...augh. They have quite the legion of little ogres. I really wish that user would be dealt with, but I really don't want to unblock them as they have trolled me. I've reported them and their crew but ugh they don't get dealt with.
I know they're still there because their name always gets mentioned in the General Chat.
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That brings me to another idea. There needs to be some report notification system where after they deal with whoever you reported it pops up upon your next sign it saying something like. "Moderator has reviewed your report." Doesn't have to be long, just has to let people know that they aren't being ignored.
@Draak, I think we're on the same page, we're probably thinking of the same troll group because they come on the same time each night. And I'm thinking we're thinking about at least one of the "Queen trolls" that's on during this time. Yes I agree with you, they need to be handled. :/ With them, I most def say don't fight fire with fire, you need to fight their fire with intelligence and professionalism.
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That notification system would be really good, since the only way you can really get a response from a mod is if you PM them with screenshots/telling them what's going on. >_> but even then sometimes you don't get a response.
Or say...in the chatbox you get a kind of message that's like a Whisper saying that "MOD*INSERTNUMBER* has reviewed your report".
I think we might be too, because yeah they generally come on at the same time of day. I'm pretty sure they'd be online now or maybe a little bit later and then they're on for a few hours.
I really do think FH needs some more mods, just so they can cover the timezones so there's no gaps when they're not on. So the mods that they have now don't have to be online for hours and hours and the reports get spread around a bit more.
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Well Draak it's really up to the administrators if they assign more in game moderators. We can bother poor Slycan here all we want, and there's really nothing Sly can do about it except do the same thing we can do, which is PM an admin. :/
Yeah they are on the same time each day. Its actually kind of sad that we know who the local plains troll group is.
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Well Draak it's really up to the administrators if they assign more in game moderators. We can bother poor Slycan here all we want, and there's really nothing Sly can do about it except do the same thing we can do, which is PM an admin. :/
Yeah they are on the same time each day. Its actually kind of sad that we know who the local plains troll group is.
Hrm, I agree on they need more mods..
I wonder why we have so few In-Game.
//Just decided to pipe in.
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Hrm, I agree on they need more mods..
I wonder why we have so few In-Game.
//Just decided to pipe in.
I sadly wonder the same thing as well. I've only seen three numbers pop through as well. It's either there are only three for over four hundred people, or the others are inactive. Nothing much you can do once again. I mean we can walk around as troll patrol all we want, but truthfully we can't do anything at all. And if we do activity go after the three/four queen trolls that we are thinking of, we risk getting ban as well if we go about it in the wrong way. So back to square one. What to do.
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Hrm, I agree on they need more mods..
I wonder why we have so few In-Game.
//Just decided to pipe in.
I sadly wonder the same thing as well. I've only seen three numbers pop through as well. It's either there are only three for over four hundred people, or the others are inactive, or they don't do anything. Nothing much you can do once again. I mean we can walk around as troll patrol all we want, but truthfully we can't do anything at all. And if we do activity go after the three/four queen trolls that we are thinking of, we risk getting ban as well if we go about it in the wrong way. So back to square one. What to do.
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It seems like it, I'd be a mod my self..since I'm on almost 23/7 any how. >.>.
/Computer geek.
- I'd say, open mod applications for In-Game, older, more mature peeps that will just keep an eye on the chats when they should/need to.
Like now, so they can deal with the problem properly. :/.
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It seems like it, I'd be a mod my self..since I'm on almost 23/7 any how. >.>.
/Computer geek.
- I'd say, open mod applications for In-Game, older, more mature peeps that will just keep an eye on the chats when they should/need to.
Like now, so they can deal with the problem properly. :/.
I can agree with you on this Twilia, I'm the same way. 23/7 <--- Lulz at that.
So what do we do? :/
And I agree with you about opening In-Game applications. But then again, how would they know who is passionate about actually helping. Or just wants crazy blood thirty kicking rights to show off to their friends? Yes they need more people. I think we can all agree on that one.
So...
We can either....
A) PM an administrator.
B) PM Slycan. <--- (This would probably just annoy the heck out of Sly xDDD )
C) Do nothing. <-- ( This was the problem in the first place. Not a very good answer)
D) Vigilante Justice <- (Hope we do this right so we don't get kicked trying to uproot a Troll Queen)
E) Blink...and watch. <-- (Like cows in a field)
F) Abuse and beat the block button like crazy. <-- (I hate doing this)
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It seems like it, I'd be a mod my self..since I'm on almost 23/7 any how. >.>.
/Computer geek.
- I'd say, open mod applications for In-Game, older, more mature peeps that will just keep an eye on the chats when they should/need to.
Like now, so they can deal with the problem properly. :/.
I can agree with you on this Twilia, I'm the same way. 23/7 <--- Lulz at that.
So what do we do? :/
And I agree with you about opening In-Game applications. But then again, how would they know who is passionate about actually helping. Or just wants crazy blood thirty kicking rights to show off to their friends? Yes they need more people. I think we can all agree on that one.
So...
We can either....
A) PM an administrator.
B) PM Slycan. <--- (This would probably just annoy the heck out of Sly xDDD )
C) Do nothing. <-- ( This was the problem in the first place. Not a very good answer)
D) Vigilante Justice <- (Hope we do this right so we don't get kicked trying to uproot a Troll Queen)
E) Blink...and watch. <-- (Like cows in a field)
F) Abuse and beat the block button like crazy. <-- (I hate doing this)
A - Seems useless, they are never on. From my knowledge and contacting them is impossible.
B - Likely should avoid xD.
C - Bad answer, very bad..it's how it got like this in the first place. By simply, ignoring it.
D - This one..is chancy :/, sure you may be trying to help, but if a mod pops on and see what your doing, let alone take it the wrong way. Ban hammer for you.
E - Like B.
F - It doesn't do crude~. Sure you can block em and abuse the block button, but what does it do for the rest of the community here? Honestly I'm tired of hearing 'Oh hey, use the block button it's your best friend. Herp a derpy.'
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I've actually PM'd both admins on this forum about a serious issue but none of them ever replied. I'm not sure if they ever got the PMs and/or read them. I do see one of them on the site from time to time but it's maybe....once a week? I do understand that they both might be busy with real life stuff but they do have a responsibility of running and maintaining this forum/game and not leaving solely up to the few mods.
I also think the 'Troll Vigilante' would be really risky and isn't a good idea. Trying to assert some sort of authority when you aren't a mod/admin could end badly.
I do like the block button, but yeah, all it does is hide them from you. It doesn't totally eliminate the problem for everyone else.
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Hmm... being banned for our troll patrol is a issue, but perhaps we can leave the queen trolls alone? The little ones shouldn't be too much of a bother, and a simple talk can probably sort them out, but with the queen, lot's of screen shots. And many people behind us. Because yes, a mod can probably turn a blind eye to one or two complaints about a 'queen', but if we have enough people behind us we can force them into action. After all, if a majority of people keep bothering them about one person, they have to do something right? (I know that might be a little hopeful... but still XD)
And if we compile huge amounts of screenshots as evidence, compile it together and have enough people backing us, we can send this evidence and such to mods ingame and inforum, and try and force them into action. Of course, that's not saying anything will happen, but we are small fry, we can't really do anything about the leaders, we're like the scouts, taking out the small fry and reporting back to the head honcho's, so they can go out, ban hammers blazing (hopefully XD)
But we would need more troll patrol members for that to really work, instead of three of us...
I know that is really off topic, but I'm trying to think of a way us small fry members can do something other than just block...
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I really like all these ideas espcially the section for reporting this would definatley help the mods and admins out when it comes to trolls and trouble makers. and making it so you can ban or kick people out of a map u made does sound likea very good idea. Recording the chat so you can go back and report a user maybe u forgoet there name or whatever would be very cool to.
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Hmm... being banned for our troll patrol is a issue, but perhaps we can leave the queen trolls alone? The little ones shouldn't be too much of a bother, and a simple talk can probably sort them out, but with the queen, lot's of screen shots. And many people behind us. Because yes, a mod can probably turn a blind eye to one or two complaints about a 'queen', but if we have enough people behind us we can force them into action. After all, if a majority of people keep bothering them about one person, they have to do something right? (I know that might be a little hopeful... but still XD)
Maybe you could create a group of devoted people in game and have them post screenshots on websites of misconduct and bad behavior. then you can yknow compare and if maybe 3 or 5 users are being a big issue send the shots to a admin or mod and say look this needs to be taken care of
And if we compile huge amounts of screenshots as evidence, compile it together and have enough people backing us, we can send this evidence and such to mods ingame and inforum, and try and force them into action. Of course, that's not saying anything will happen, but we are small fry, we can't really do anything about the leaders, we're like the scouts, taking out the small fry and reporting back to the head honcho's, so they can go out, ban hammers blazing (hopefully XD)
But we would need more troll patrol members for that to really work, instead of three of us...
I know that is really off topic, but I'm trying to think of a way us small fry members can do something other than just block...
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Hmm... being banned for our troll patrol is a issue, but perhaps we can leave the queen trolls alone? The little ones shouldn't be too much of a bother, and a simple talk can probably sort them out, but with the queen, lot's of screen shots. And many people behind us. Because yes, a mod can probably turn a blind eye to one or two complaints about a 'queen', but if we have enough people behind us we can force them into action. After all, if a majority of people keep bothering them about one person, they have to do something right? (I know that might be a little hopeful... but still XD)
And if we compile huge amounts of screenshots as evidence, compile it together and have enough people backing us, we can send this evidence and such to mods ingame and inforum, and try and force them into action. Of course, that's not saying anything will happen, but we are small fry, we can't really do anything about the leaders, we're like the scouts, taking out the small fry and reporting back to the head honcho's, so they can go out, ban hammers blazing (hopefully XD)
But we would need more troll patrol members for that to really work, instead of three of us...
I know that is really off topic, but I'm trying to think of a way us small fry members can do something other than just block...
A troll queen? Since when did you start stroking their egos?
I see nothing punishable about the Ban Patrol other than it seems to be trolling itself, in a sense.
But all I do is sit around so I might as well sit there and be known for screenshotting trolls. :l
Because I can look back and get some cheap giggles.
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Oh, you missed the earlier posts Motoko maybe xD We're not stroking their egos, a Troll Queen is someone who leads people in trolling. Everyone at night who trolls never trolls any other time when they get online. But when certain users get online and start trolling they join in. Those certain users are called = Troll Queens. That's not a good thing. Lulz.
As long as Troll Patrol doesn't say anything and just sits and screenshots I think it might be safe. But it's risky so I think instead of doing anything, I'm going to tip my hat, bow, and step out of this thread. And I just noticed that we cannot do anything except ban/screenshot. And I personally don't like abusing any of those two buttons. Some of those ogres are really nice people, except when their Queens gets on. Even once I saw one troll queen go "So what's going to be the topic for tomorrow night." Gosh. It almost sounds like they have it planned down to the dime each night.
Why can't we do anything?
It's up to the moderators to do something. All we can do is urge them to do something. At the end of the day, it's in the staff's hands.
With that said. I'll step out of this thread now. Ta-Ta for now! <3
~Ritza
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[ May 15th "Reports"]
After reading a friends journal ( who has connections with the game maker Kov) and looking into the original FeralHeart fan forum called Impressive Hearts, the report indicates that FeralHeart is in danger of sinking faster than Impressive Title did apparently. It also has good information about how updates are being handled and a bunch of other stuff that is really interesting. If you wish to read up on the report please visit here: -Link Removed containing false information-
( Please note that the above information may not be %100 accurate nor does is represent anything official. )
Edit;
-Link Removed containing false information-
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Nothing that happens outside my private maps is of my concern. I cant sit in any of the public maps without seeing nonsense. I can always ignore it, but I'd rather not deal with it/see it at all. Theres nothing I can do to stop godmodding, trolls, or idiots just being idiots seems like. Im no mod. So I've just decided to keep my nose out of anything dealing with public maps and let the people who actually hang out in them, handle it. Since they know more about it than I do anyway.
But about the mods in private maps, I really do like that idea. You make the map, you make the rules. Totally fair in my book and would solve a lot of problems if any every arise. Especially for people who have their maps up for download on the forums. Who knows when a jerk might download your map and try to crash the party?
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[ May 15th "Reports"]
After reading a friends journal ( who has connections with the game maker Kov) and looking into the original FeralHeart fan forum called Impressive Hearts, the report indicates that FeralHeart is in danger of sinking faster than Impressive Title did apparently. It also has good information about how updates are being handled and a bunch of other stuff that is really interesting. If you wish to read up on the report please visit here: -Link Removed containing false information-
( Please note that the above information may not be %100 accurate nor does is represent anything official. )
After reading that, I really hope they don't let it die, once again I wonder why they don't appoint new staff to help and such.
Didn't IT have a huge handful of Admins and Mods?
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"Oh no we have to get all of the inappropriateness away so little kids don't turn into horrible monsters that kill when they grow up and we also don't want them to ask their parents 'hey whats mating and all those other inappropriate things on FH' and then they'll see dirty jokes and sex and bad words they have never seen before and blah blah blah blah blah."
>:(
I'm sick of it. So, you're all saying if a little kid sees one drop of blood they turn violent when they grow up?
I'm sick of it. Just sick of it.
Sick of it all.
It is not like none of the children have seen a bad word before. It's not like none of the children know what mating is. Besides, it's part of life, and children should know what it is. But noooo. FH has to keep all the mate stuff away so they don't know what life is.
Probably no one will agree. I know for sure within the next hour I will have -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 karma. Go ahead and bite me if you want. I know no one will understand.
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"Oh no we have to get all of the inappropriateness away so little kids don't turn into horrible monsters that kill when they grow up and we also don't want them to ask their parents 'hey whats mating and all those other inappropriate things on FH' and then they'll see dirty jokes and sex and bad words they have never seen before and blah blah blah blah blah."
>:(
I'm sick of it. So, you're all saying if a little kid sees one drop of blood they turn violent when they grow up?
I'm sick of it. Just sick of it.
Sick of it all.
It is not like none of the children have seen a bad word before. It's not like none of the children know what mating is. Besides, it's part of life, and children should know what it is. But noooo. FH has to keep all the mate stuff away so they don't know what life is.
Probably no one will agree. I know for sure within the next hour I will have -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 karma. Go ahead and bite me if you want. I know no one will understand.
No one said anything like that. It's trolls and all that other junk we are going on about here. We are not going to report someone or shame them for a violent fight (I personally like a good fight myself), mating should be kept private, little kids or not, it's a public game, I don't want to walk around reading people having cyber, and swearing is against the rules anyway.
No one here is saying anything along those lines at all really. We are just sick of all the junk that goes on in FH and ruins our fun. After all, what is the point of a game if it is no longer fun?
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[ May 15th "Reports"]
After reading a friends journal ( who has connections with the game maker Kov) and looking into the original FeralHeart fan forum called Impressive Hearts, the report indicates that FeralHeart is in danger of sinking faster than Impressive Title did apparently. It also has good information about how updates are being handled and a bunch of other stuff that is really interesting. If you wish to read up on the report please visit here: -Link Removed containing false information-
( Please note that the above information may not be %100 accurate nor does is represent anything official. )
After reading that, I really hope they don't let it die, once again I wonder why they don't appoint new staff to help and such.
Didn't IT have a huge handful of Admins and Mods?
LOL
Too bad this is stuff noever ment to be going to the public, even kov has bad days and he is not amused about this -Removed by Moderator- being posted.
And about Updates being handeled, why is no one asking directly then why thers no update uploadet yet to the one who handles the updates?
Because no one believes him. Everyone is crawling into Kovs butt and only believing him, instead of asking -both- sites.
Im not going to tell why te update had taken so long, not my job. You wanna know? Ask the right person yourself.
I am upset about this, pissed. People always spreading half true things instead of asking everyone who is involved. Su**ers.
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Make more in game moderators and have moderator training.
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Let me explain. Who gives a crap if you make more moderators, if they don't know what to do, the community is screwed over anyways. About Kovu, your right, instead of people sitting there making their own "news station live on FH" they should shut the heck up, and go to the source. They aren't even a reliable source for information. They are like those annoying news papers that you see on the news stands or in the store that have "GODZILLA SPOTTED IN HOLLYWOOD ON THE 17 OF THIS MONTH! READ NOW!!!" Er. No thanks, I'm not going to read, because if Godzilla really was spotted in Hollywood tomorrow, I'm sure our governement would be shipping us all to Canada, Mexico, England, or Spain. I'm almost positive they wouldn't just sit on their butts while Godzilla burned everything to a crisp. Same way with FH, the staff wouldn't be sitting around if a Godzilla Hacker was running around and messing stuff up. I'm actually pretty sure they would be trying their darnest to stop whatever hacker.
So I truthfully believe all these "Reports" should go sit down and find something better to do with their time.
Thanks whoever nuzzled me. :D
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@ Tigg
I had a feeling there were two sides to that story. :/
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@ Tigg
I had a feeling there were two sides to that story. :/
Actually there are more than just two.
Cause some love to dramatise everything. Actually i talked to Kov exactly about this, and he just was a bit upset that he couldnt upload the Update. There were huge technical issues that Raz just simply couldnt give the Access for weeks, sure Kov went angry about this and told his feelings for this. He just hasnt expected those Dramaqueens to spread this out. I find it disrespectfull to handle private Conversations like they did it with this. So what, now Kov has to watch out to whom he tells things? Srsly that cant be it, what the fu** is wrong with them.
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They are like those reporters that are like. "We give you hundred dollars for nude pics of so and so actor! We pay you big money!" Except it's not funny. People like that just wind up hurting the community and making people look bad. Goodness.
Like a bear to honey they steal the pot that took a long time to make. The bees get tired of working, but then the bees notice that their hard work is well liked, and they fight back, stinging the bear, the bear is surprised that the hard working bees lash back, and it turns tails and runs.
Hopefully this will happen :/
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I feel better now knowing that it was simply dramatized out. In any case I'm removing the links, don't need more of this rumor spreading (not like enough of them are floating around already). Danke Tigg.
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I'm going to assume from above posts that the newsish post was mostly bogus then? XD *whew* I was scared for a second :3 I feel though that the reason people aren't asking Kov more things is because they feel he's busy and doesn't want to be bothered? Just trying some amateur psycology here XD. Sly, are all of the suggestions/ support for this topic being seriously considered to be added to control the trolls in the future? :3 the sooner it's put in the better, because discouragement of this magnitude should be quelled asap :3
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Sly, are all of the suggestions/ support for this topic being seriously considered to be added to control the trolls in the future? :3 the sooner it's put in the better, because discouragement of this magnitude should be quelled asap :3
Well the only thing that any of staff/helpers can do is suggest these to Kov ^^ at the end he decided to add them in or not. It's a simple matter of ~when it will be~ added, because this game still has along way to go.. not just security wise but all sorts of features.
but it's not like he doesn't already know.
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: 3 oh I see- well that's an encouraing sign that the game is A) far from finished and B) run by a guy who will defineately see the necessity of these troll-be-gone suggestions ^_^ "when" it will be implemented will be a day for soda and chocolate fondue
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I feel better now knowing that it was simply dramatized out. In any case I'm removing the links, don't need more of this rumor spreading (not like enough of them are floating around already). Danke Tigg.
Yeah, i think everyone can understand that humans do have phases where they dont want to continue their work. We all do have such down-days.
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goodness yes Tiggs! :( I can't even count the days where I felt an overwhelming sense of creative constipation and the dawning realization (true or not I don't know) of the insignifigance of my work ^_^- thank god for chocolate
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Ive read the rules and I just wanted to make sure that if someone tells you to go die in game they will get banned or something if you report them right?
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-but you'll have to have a screenshot of the event.
It depends on how serious the situation is. Were they harassing you? Bashing? Trolling?
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Gah never took a screenie.
Im gonna feel stupid but I dont really know what trolling means.
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Trolling is a form of cyber-bullying where a user says annoying or offensive things in order to get a reaction. Upon receiving a reaction they continue to irritate the individual until that person says something to get banned, or quits. Trolls are extremely annoying, and can be very hurtful and offensive.
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Well it's slightly complicated Ciaran, it all depends on the context. If they tell you to go die IC (in character) There's not much they can do about it, since it's character to character. But if its OC (out of character) then that might be a different situation. You would have to have screenshots and send them to Tigg or some other moderator/admin that you know for a fact is active.
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I feel better now knowing that it was simply dramatized out. In any case I'm removing the links, don't need more of this rumor spreading (not like enough of them are floating around already). Danke Tigg.
It's good to know it was false, I hate falling for things like that though |D
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[ May 15th "Reports"]
After reading a friends journal ( who has connections with the game maker Kov) and looking into the original FeralHeart fan forum called Impressive Hearts, the report indicates that FeralHeart is in danger of sinking faster than Impressive Title did apparently. It also has good information about how updates are being handled and a bunch of other stuff that is really interesting. If you wish to read up on the report please visit here: -Link Removed containing false information-
( Please note that the above information may not be %100 accurate nor does is represent anything official. )
After reading that, I really hope they don't let it die, once again I wonder why they don't appoint new staff to help and such.
Didn't IT have a huge handful of Admins and Mods?
LOL
Too bad this is stuff noever ment to be going to the public, even kov has bad days and he is not amused about this -Removed by Moderator- being posted.
And about Updates being handeled, why is no one asking directly then why thers no update uploadet yet to the one who handles the updates?
Because no one believes him. Everyone is crawling into Kovs butt and only believing him, instead of asking -both- sites.
Im not going to tell why te update had taken so long, not my job. You wanna know? Ask the right person yourself.
I am upset about this, pissed. People always spreading half true things instead of asking everyone who is involved. Su**ers.
The point is that NO ONE SHOULD have to crawl up ANYONE'S 'butt' to get ANY information.
We shouldn't HAVE to ask, we should have been presented this information. If holding back the patch was so important, we should have had a right to know.
You guys need to do a better job at informing your members of these things -- even if it isn't full information, some information is better than none.
And it wasn't rumors, hun. (:
And if you reply to be in a very harsh attitude type of way, like I've seen you do to others, it'll bring me to the question once again as to why someone so harsh in their moderator duties would even be hired. ^^~
Edit: AND, it wasn't a rumor because at the time we got the information it was /TRUE/.
It's called updates on things, children, and this is an update on an old situation.
Not a rumor. ;]
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Agree with Kah.
We should have a right to information that will affect the community, seeing as we are the community. :|
If the information that was posted was false on IH, okay, fair enough.
But, to be honest, it wasn't spreading sh!t. It was what was known to be true at the time.
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Sometimes the staff start to get on 'seperate pages' , and what I mean is that not everyone is updated at the same time about it. Things change, updates get pushed back, etc etc, and it's hard to catch up and stay tuned. Not sure why this is to be honest..
Maybe a section like "Game Journal" where Raz and Kov can make poston the Game/Sever ?
*Maintaince Dates ( For when the server needs fixing/ is down)
*Update List ( AND what has been added into the game, because I just found out there's new markings for 1.05 that weren't mentioned xD)
Stuff like this?
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Sly, isn't that what their game updates board is for? :/
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Sly, isn't that what their game updates board is for? :/
Well Updates are for when it happens finally
I'm talking about progressive 1 -on- 1 Journal like format where the 'Top 2 Dogs' can talk about whats ~ going to happen~, and communicating with the members themselves without any middle-man.
Sorta how Notch did Minecraft : http://notch.tumblr.com/ (http://notch.tumblr.com/)
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Well, it sounds like a good idea, but I've the feeling they wouldn't post anything for updates and progress. I'd LOVE to be proved wrong - I'd love for that, because it would show they do care for more than just their own crap.
But I've the funny feeling that's built on previous experience that they won't. Or it wouldn't be what we expect, in some way. >___>
Nice idea, however. IH has a game journal with old threads from when the game was in progress, we planned to update that as well. Obviously, it may not be as informational as the official forum ( yet we still manage more information than them >>; ) but we at least try to give the community information, and our staff as well.
I see what you're saying though, I do hope they do something like that and PUT it to GOOD use.
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This is a discussion thread not a bash thread. And a good repoter waits until they know the information the have is a hunred percent correct. When the info isn't right that's how you have lawsuits and so on.
But I'm going to watch for a while. I just think tha there can be a better way to do things.
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No one is bashing here -- one can not improve themselves without someone telling them what they are doing wrong. So I apologize if it SEEMS like bashing -- rightfully, it is not.
And a reporter at leasts reports, we reported when the actual staff here did not report.
And, this isn't a news station / paper. We are giving out information as it is given. Even the best of reporters can make mistakes or give out WIP information. Gameinformer gives out information on games IN PROGRESS. This was an update IN PROGRESS. We reported the truth at the time, as anyone else does.
And no information is one hundred percent true unless it is a fact in stone, and these can not be facts in stone since this game is constantly, I assume, being worked on.
Please get your facts straight. ^^
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I agree that a "game journal" would help a lot with this restless community of ours ^^. But can we pretty please with sugar on top stop sniping at eachother? PLEASE?
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No one is sniping at each other -- we're stating things. :3
If I seem to be coming off as rude, that's just me being honest, guys. ~
I can try to seem less 'rude' - but I won't be less honest. x3
And yeah, the game journal idea DOES seem nice.
As long, as I said, they actually do stuff with it.
Such as a bi-weekly update. Even when there is NOTHING to report, they should post saying "Nothing new! (:"
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*blinks*
Oh wow. Has all of this been required? I have shifted through and examined all of the posts, claims, arguments at hand, and while I am in no position to make a ultimate decision or give a final solution, I do think that neither side here has done much good in taking a step forward in helping anything here.
As to why Raz held back the patch, I do not know. However, if you glance at the announcement and Game Help section, there's a lot being said in terms that the patch gives errors and problems. Maybe that was his reasoning for holding it back? A kind word for Razmirz on this thread or another to clear things up could help out a lot, here. ^^
Clearly, he had some reason for holding back the patch and telling no one. Good or not is up for each individual person to decide for themselves. I personally think whatever reason it was, as long as not for personal gain, was a good enough reason.
As for the whole Kovu thing. Everyone has their ups and downs. I don't think the information he shared was meant to go public. Did anyone even ask him if he was okay with having that information told in a update of any sort? Sometimes I think some of you are worse than paparazzi stalking a celebrity. =/
Now, instead of bashing and pointing out what a "bad" job that Raz, Kov, and the staff do; why not give solutions, a lot of solutions and ideas. There are plenty I can think of, so I'm sure others can think of ideas as well.
Like someone said, there could be a "Game Journal" where weekly / bi-monthly updates are listed. Nothing too big, such as "OMG GUYS NEW SPECIES!" (I think big updates like THAT would be a lovely surprise ^^) but small, important issues. Such as the fhz. files being hacked. It would have been nice to know of that before the patch was released (but maybe they had planned to tell us, from what I can tell, Raz posted it only because of an announcement or two on another forum, and spreading of this news. But for future reference, it would be very helpful to know these sort of things.
Maybe in this board, Razmirz can keep a small log of when the server is up or down, how the sites server is going, and give us some interesting, for fun information from time to time if he feels like it. =]
I can not see as to why these two men can not work together. If there is any issue between them, they could easily avoid each other as much as possible, and professionally discuss the game to server and server to game happenings, what information can be released, and all things along those lines. ~
While this all seems to have been a small issue blown way out of proportion, causing some unnecessary drama; I think we should learn from it and better prepare all of ourselves to do a better job in the future.
Be it informing the community in a proper way and in good time, or supporting our staff team, server hoster, and game coder/creator. x3
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thank you owl feesh ^_^, that was a very well-put reminder for me to stay civil and on topic- and it was probably a good reminder for others too. I think before we get down to havin' fun updates we should get some anti-troll stuff put in first? I also think that most potential ideas/ solutions have been well-covered by responders to this topic ^_^
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I agree with you Higby, you make an excellent point as well. So what type of anti-troll stuff can you guys think of? What would be useful and friendly that would make trolls be more careful/stop trolling?
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rules showing more often are a definite start- and a revamp of the reporting system too. Also a little test when you sign up to show you READ the rules. Adding some more mods to report to in the first place would be helpful too ^^, and a ciezure in the spamming of the ingame mods we already have too
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1) More In-Game mods. I'm sure most agreed to this.
2) A list of the rules, or a quiz when you sign up on the forum. The quiz - You'd have to get around 90% or so, to pass, so you can actually make the account. If you fail after so many times, say five. Your blocked/unable to make an account for an x amount of hours.
3) A box pops up, after you create your first character In-Game. Rules listing 1 through 10, ect.
4) Hm. I'd say the current mods (if possible) be more active in each of the public maps (At lest one mod, per map.). At lest a few hours each day. Early morning, Mid after noon, Late at night. Or even, assign some mods for the said parts of the day. Such as a Day mod, Afternoon Mod, Night mod.
5) Maybe a time limit on posting In-Game, say if you post something. There's a thirty to one minute timer until you can post again. Wow (World Of Warcraft) has this, it helps reduce spam.
All I can think of, at the moment. :c.
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those are probably all we can really do without making the game too censored and unfun for those that are following the rules ^^. Let's get on it!
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I like number 5 twilia, except that would get a little annoying for me when I RP, I like to RP paragraph's, and they don't always fit in one post, so I would have to wait to post the rest of my RP post... But it's still a good idea.
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I like number 5 twilia, except that would get a little annoying for me when I RP, I like to RP paragraph's, and they don't always fit in one post, so I would have to wait to post the rest of my RP post... But it's still a good idea.
I know, that's the only draw back to it, sadly. :c.
I para-rp my self. In-Game, if I can find a decent group to rp with, which is very, very rare.
But I guess, it's something we can live with. Unless it's set to effect specific chats, like general. General in the plains is just horrible, with the amount of people spamming it every two seconds. >.<.
I always /always/ have general off when I'm in the plains. It's...just an eye sore.
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Wolfteam has a timer were you can't make more than 3 'entered lines/sentences/words' in 5 seconds (or something like that)
It also detects if the same word is being posted, and the system automatically blocks you from typing in the chat for 2 minutes.
anyway adding ideas ;D
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You're welcome, Higby!
1) More In-Game mods. I'm sure most agreed to this.
Yes! ^^ I think this would go well - however, is anyone even aware of how many current in game moderators we have? I realize that, for safety and security reasons of the in game staff, that when they go into moderator mode they are seen as "Mod#", correct? Well, perhaps on the forum a list can be compiled of who IS a in game moderator, but not what their in game moderator number is. If this still causes problems, perhaps a board / thread that can be posted on whenever a in game issue is going on. That way if a in game moderator is surfing the forum, and they see this, they can pop in the area and deal with it. If not to be posted on the thread itself, a form could be made up; where one places there username, the location of the incident, and screenshot as evidence to what happened with a small summary of what is/has gone on. ~ Then, they would send to to one of the administrators who could send it to one of their in game moderators OR deal with it themselves as to how they see fit. ^-^
2) A list of the rules, or a quiz when you sign up on the forum. The quiz - You'd have to get around 90% or so, to pass, so you can actually make the account. If you fail after so many times, say five. Your blocked/unable to make an account for an x amount of hours.
I like this idea, it could filter out a lot of potential spammers / people just aiming in to get the game then have nothing to do with the community. I feel as if we should try our hardest to get everyone involved, up, and active (in a Internet, forum type of way ;3)! It will make things more enjoyable for us all, and if we're more willing to accept new people who have obviously passed said test, we'll have a better time getting along rather than arguing like children. =]
3) A box pops up, after you create your first character In-Game. Rules listing 1 through 10, ect.
Maybe even before you create your first character? When you first log into the game, a pop up box (that scrolls, just in case) and it lists the rules, and perhaps can link to important threads of the forum.
4) Hm. I'd say the current mods (if possible) be more active in each of the public maps (At lest one mod, per map.). At lest a few hours each day. Early morning, Mid after noon, Late at night. Or even, assign some mods for the said parts of the day. Such as a Day mod, Afternoon Mod, Night mod.
I'm not sure how much variety can be found in the current moderators (of the forum and in game) time zones, but perhaps Raksha (or someone, since Raksha is on hiatus?) can compile a neat list of what moderator has what time zone. It'll make it easier to find and contact moderators at what may be better times for them. It can also, for future reference, help the staff decide on new staff who have time zones that aren't as well moderated as the other time zones.
5) Maybe a time limit on posting In-Game, say if you post something. There's a thirty to one minute timer until you can post again. Wow (World Of Warcraft) has this, it helps reduce spam.
I like this idea, however it puts a restriction on roleplayers who paragraph roleplay. Slycan's idea off of Wolfteam sounds perfect, to be honest. If anyone doesn't understand what she's saying, I think she means;
____________Chat Box _____________
Bob: LOL
Bob: bDJAW
Bob: NBJDJAKW!
- Bob has been banned from posting for
one minute.
Jill: A lot of words here rp post here blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bl
ah blah blah blah blah blah etc
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What you're seeing in my poorly made chat box, is Bob posted three lines / spam / words very quickly and annoyingly, and I've seen this happen before. Because he spammed like that, the system banned him from posting for one minute. If he does it again, it could be two minutes. Third time, three minutes. And so on. When a user logs out then logs in, perhaps this could be reset? Or it can at least be kept track of with some sort of system log. I don't code, so I don't know how it could work. But it's a good idea that we should work on!
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My only concern stands.
The staff need to start informing us of these things. I don't care how they do it, they just need to. And in a FORMAL and ORGANIZED way.
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I am sure it is a concern to us all, but perhaps you could contribute to the conversation with some ideas of your own to help them out a bit on how to achieve this? x)
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a news/game journal sounds like our best bet XP
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It does sound as our best bet. Perhaps someone could bring their attention to our more helpful ideas of this thread, suggest it and quote things properly. Or, perhaps when/if I see Raksha on msn later, I'll tell her about it. But I'd rather not bother her, she's on hiatus. =]
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I think that there were a lot of helpful previous posts/suggestions already that pretty much covered all possible options :) granted there were a coupla spats but you get that in every topic. Most contributions to this were positive/helpful methinks :), reiterating for those just joining the conversation would be helpful though for sure- just so the message is super-duper gotten across and we have as many people as possible's input on the suggestions
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Im new(ish.... I dont really use the forum) and i was wondering how to report somebody. There has been somebody bothering people at the Temple of Dreams for a long time, and i have screen shots to prove it. (by bothering i mean much more than just suggestive) I was wondering who i could report this to.
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Send the screenshots to one of the mods here.
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Im new(ish.... I dont really use the forum) and i was wondering how to report somebody. There has been somebody bothering people at the Temple of Dreams for a long time, and i have screen shots to prove it. (by bothering i mean much more than just suggestive) I was wondering who i could report this to.
As long as you have the evidence you need, send a report (a PM) to a staff member (http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&topic=6.msg95929#new). And next time you have question like that, you could post questions for the forum here (http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&board=27.0) and game questions here! (http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&board=24.0) ^^
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and don't spam, some of us aren't in-game mods and have to wait til one is online like the rest of you. Spamming pm's of pictures won't make one get online faster.
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Going back in relation to the Chat box and limits etc, I think there should be some sort of restriction when it comes to entering no text. Like, disabling it so you can't hit send while there's no text in the text box.
So you don't get:
<HERP>
<HERP>
<HERP>
<Lionzlolz> D8<
<HERP>
<HERP>
<Lionzlolz> omg stop the spam
<HERP>
<HERP>
<CubzEEE> STOP SPAMMING
Since people seem to like to spam that a fair bit too :\
And the same for movies too, I think there should be a certain amount of time between when you can post movies, so you don't get movie spam either.
Nothing like 10 of the same movie repeated, while it features a 3 second clip saying something like "LOL" or "WHERE R U LIONPERSON?" < /sarcasm> |D
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<HERP>
<HERP>
<HERP>
<Lionzlolz> D8<
<HERP>
<HERP>
<Lionzlolz> omg stop the spam
<HERP>
<HERP>
<CubzEEE> STOP SPAMMING
Nothing like 10 of the same movie repeated, while it features a 3 second clip saying something like "LOL" or "WHERE R U LIONPERSON?" < /sarcasm> |D
BOTH OF THESE. HNNNG. They're terrible. Maybe a limit on posting the same thing repeatedly and/or a limit on movies?
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Oooh, yes, that too Draak. That'd be useful. (:
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* forgot to add the idea's to the first post *
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B- There are any/enough (active) mods in-game online for hours at a time.
Not to be picky, but should that be 'aren't' instead of 'are'?
Other then that it all sounds good ;D
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oh thank you lol.
~Update May 31 ~
Everyone give Raksha huggles and kisses now, we got a report section!
http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&board=81.0 (http://feral-heart.com/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=2&jfile=index.php&board=81.0)
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woot! *goes to give snuggles to Raksha*
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For the community we should have an rp training program for new rpers like myself or the ability to have teachers instead of feeling left out because your not as experienced and dont want to feel like your in the way.
maybe a training board for forum rping and a board for ingame rping because i belive the styles of rping are different.
experienced rpers should train us not push away, if something bugs you fix it dont complain teach the noobs how to be better.
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^I like that idea. I think we should have something like that.
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I know someone started a roleplay how to/something along those lines...but I forget where it is |D; Ironically it wasn't in the rp section.